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READ THE RULES PLZTHX.
I really. Really. Don't like this place. Or this forum, or this journal. The writers. The 111, actually.

I have my reasoning, don't worry.

The 111 is a tight community of writers or ******** furry-wannabes alike. They've got some good people and they've got some cunts but eventually everyone gets along at some time or another. They like the rules; they'll go out into that wide old WF and pick out threads that didn't follow them and correct them.

They'll say stuff like this:

DON'T ******** MAKE STUPID ******** POSTS IN THE WRONG FORUM!

and:

Read the Goddamn stickies. :Stare:


Yes, the stare emoticon. It's popular.

stare ...

These will be told to n00bs and newbies both.

Let's play a game for a moment, ok? The situation is that a newbie has recently found the writer's forum, has a passion for writing, but has never attended a class or anything on it. They read or skim the rules, preferrably the first, and then make a mistake: they post their story in the main WF.

They don't realize their wrong, of course. There are a lot of rules and you can take in each and every one of them. Not to mention that it is easy to miss the subforums box or to click the wrong one unknowingly.

Anyways. They've read the rules but put it in the wrong place on accident. Let's see here... Ooh, a regular of the WF! How nice of them to stop by--

"Did you even read the stickies? Stories have their own subforum, you know. The Original Stories/Prose subforum? You must either be blind or retarded. stare "

Or something along those lines.

Let's think here. The newbie has no idea what's going on, and has never heard of the Original Stories/Prose subforum- nor do they know what a subforum is. But what they DO know is that someone just called them stupid.

So they reply. "What? Did you just call me retarded? I'm new, ok?! If you're going to be rude take it somewhere else, or you're the retard. stare " Not necessarily in this grammar, of course; they might be younger and not have a good grasp on that yet.

You can see where this is headed. A flamewar. Oh, Lord. Fun stuff. But let's back up from the scene where it's just a newbie flaming an olbie.

A little farther, please.


That's right. Newbie. Read the rules, missed a single thing. Didn't see the subforums. And who actually flamed? The regular.

Regulars are almost all spawned by the 111. Sorry, Eleventyone, but my point is that you're all stereotypically crude, rude, and just as trolling as the n00bs.



And did you know? Look at this!

clarion, in the posting guide
What to Do if You Find a Misplaced Thread

When a thread is in the wrong place, only one person may inform them of this fact, and in a polite and friendly manner. They do not need to be punished or lectured (mods can take care of that wink ). Plus, repeatedly posting just to say SUB-FO-RUM can be considered spam and might get YOU a warning.

The second step is much more important than chastising the lost poster! Use the report buttons to have it moved.
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If everyone helps out a little bit, our forum can stay friendly and clean!



So once a person reports the thread and tells the author, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN. I'm sure they heard it the first time.




Sorry this is so long, but I'm not quite done yet. THE OP/L PISSES ME OFF TOO. Why? Because people are being flamed for trying something new, or not making the standard. They're getting yelled at for being bad at poetry.

And know what? Check this out:

Have Your Pi
How NOT to Post in the OP/L

What is Not Allowed

Flaming/Trolling

This is the touchiest issue in the OP/L for very good reasons. Like all art, poetry is a very personal experience. Sometimes, it's hard to hear that people don't like the piece into which you put a lot of effort. However, some posts do cross the line from negative review into flaming.
Example
Your vocabulary is crap. Your grammar sucks. Your ideas are cliche-ridden drivel.

Try putting a little more effort into your work.

I think we can all agree that this is certainly not a constructive post.

Now let's really cross the line. mrgreen

Example
Wow. Could you have any less respect for the English language?

I've seen dogs produce sweeter s**t on my front lawn. Why don't you do the world a favor and find a hobby that doesn't make me vomit?

Hopefully, this one is fairly easily identifiable. xp

The key thing is, nowhere does this talk about the poem. These comments are most definitely degrading, and they are all targeting the writer, not the work. This most definitely is classified as a flame.



Mm.

Delicious stickies.




Hey there, regs. Read the rules. wink






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Sui the foot doktor
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commentCommented on: Wed Aug 02, 2006 @ 07:10pm
VIVE LA VERNEVOLUTION


commentCommented on: Wed Aug 02, 2006 @ 07:18pm
...I just got here. gonk
I like to think I wouldn't do that, as when we ran the RR I was the only person to immediately jump on someone's a** for not reading the first page, but I may be some kind of a problem in some capacity in the future. Who the ******** knows.



GLKilowog
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Allisande
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commentCommented on: Wed Aug 02, 2006 @ 07:21pm
I do try to be nice. I remember only too well how much it hurt me when I showed my very first shiny, brand-new story to someone and they said it stank. However, I think that sometimes the bad blood starts on the other side. I've done a perfectly reasonable critique before, only to be told I had no clue what I was talking about.


commentCommented on: Wed Aug 02, 2006 @ 07:41pm
Really, I must laugh.
Not because I think you are not correct--oh, this seems perfectly accurate--, but because I've been telling people that for close to two years now. One of the (many) reasons I tend to stay out of the 111.
Of course, I'm also a hypocrite. So, yeah.



Lillian Ashe
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Axl93
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commentCommented on: Wed Aug 02, 2006 @ 07:45pm
Thats okay.
I don't flame noobs.
I flame arguingnoobs for no reason.


commentCommented on: Wed Aug 02, 2006 @ 07:51pm
Long live the Clavian Empire! talk2hand



Glen Runciter
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azulyta
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commentCommented on: Thu Aug 03, 2006 @ 01:02am
Thank you for giving clear voice to many of the reasons why I have not story-posted in the WF. And why, although I am often in it, I will likely never be considered of the 111. That thread is to be loved in spite of everything it contains that is hazardous to one's mental health, because there is nothing else quite like it, on Gaia.


commentCommented on: Sat Aug 05, 2006 @ 02:43am
You know me, Verne, I'm the voice of reason. domokun



Sergeant Sargent
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Dovesari
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commentCommented on: Mon Aug 14, 2006 @ 04:00pm
I got flamed when I was new! I thank you for posting such a lovely rant.


commentCommented on: Fri Aug 18, 2006 @ 06:25am
I suddenly like you very much. eek

I think I'll Friend you now.



Kibeth--Walker
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