Question on BL/Yaoi

[Forlornhope13]

I didn't see this in the forum, but I was wondering is reading bl/yaoi or some of the other fanfictions boy/boy or anything, is that an anyway against the bible? I mean I'm a Christian and trying not to go against the bible, but I love reading boy/boy fanfiction and seeing the pictures.(nonhardcore) That has been bothering me forever, anyone have any opinions?  

[MooMooJuice]

Well, the Catholic church teaches homosexuality is wrong, and is a sin.

But, I'm not exactly Christian ( I think? I'm Luthren... which is different somehow? *has no idea* ), and I don't exactly believe that.
Having sex for pleasure, I believe, is kind of a sin ( is a sin? ), but that goes for ANYone.
I guess I see homosexuality as the sin we are born with ( There's a word for it.. I can't remember it's been so long. ). The type everyone has, not just an add on God decided to stick onto some people. This sin is washed away at baptism, which is what allows us into heaven.
So I think, the sin of homosexuality is washed away when that person is baptized... but the homosexuality is still there... just no longer as a sin.

I'm explaining this horribly, aren't I?
Yeah, I'm not making much sense to myself either.

But, I've always questioned why God would make homosexuality a sin, if it can't be rid of... I suppose as long as you don't indulge on it, it's not a sin... but that doesn't seem right to me.
So they can't love anyone but God or it might be a sin? God teaches us to love, so why is it a sin for homosexuals?
It doesn't add up.

Then, I read a bit in a book, which said that what is said in the bible about Homosexuality may actually be translated wrong by many, and isn't actually saying it's a sin. ( I would love to tell you the book, but I can't remember what it's called )
So I was confused, and just believe homosexuality isn't a sin... the sex is the sin. Which could also apply to anybody else, depending on the situation, of course.

Now, looking at BL, could be a different matter... but as far as I know... it couldn't be a heafty sin, if it is one...

Erm... am I even on topic anymore? *has no idea what she was trying to get at with this*  

[Forlornhope13]

Lol, I didn't know having sex for pleasure was kind of a sin, did you mean before or after marriage? Now that you mention it, I don't understand why homosexuality is a sin, if it can't be helped. So reading BL may be a sin, just no a big one. But are sins weighed equally?  

[Kashira Ka04]

I don't believe reading BL is a sin unless you're reading it for the porn, which you seem to have stated that you don't.

Anyways my veiws on homosexuality are to be debated about, but in what I have come to believe, being a homosexual is not bad, it's the practicing of the lifestyle that is sinful.

((I have quite a lot to say on this subject, but I will not continue.))

Even, so it's actually a matter of, will reading it cause you to sin?

Choice, my dear.

Yesh, I'm a Christain, to be exact a Seventh-Day Adventist~

 

[Forlornhope13]

Kashira Ka04

I don't believe reading BL is a sin unless you're reading it for the porn, which you seem to have stated that you don't.

Anyways my veiws on homosexuality are to be debated about, but in what I have come to believe, being a homosexual is not bad, it's the practicing of the lifestyle that is sinful.

((I have quite a lot to say on this subject, but I will not continue.))

Even, so it's actually a matter of, will reading it cause you to sin?

Choice, my dear.

Yesh, I'm a Christain, to be exact a Seventh-Day Adventist~

So, you say being a homosexual isn't bad, but you accept what you are and find a homosexual partner that's sinful? You are a Christian, do you read BL?  

[Kashira Ka04]

Forlornhope13

Kashira Ka04

I don't believe reading BL is a sin unless you're reading it for the porn, which you seem to have stated that you don't.

Anyways my veiws on homosexuality are to be debated about, but in what I have come to believe, being a homosexual is not bad, it's the practicing of the lifestyle that is sinful.

((I have quite a lot to say on this subject, but I will not continue.))

Even, so it's actually a matter of, will reading it cause you to sin?

Choice, my dear.

Yesh, I'm a Christain, to be exact a Seventh-Day Adventist~

So, you say being a homosexual isn't bad, but you accept what you are and find a homosexual partner that's sinful? You are a Christian, do you read BL?

Let me clear this up a bit, I'm straight (a girl), and yes, believe having a homosexual relationships is sinful. I aslo read BL: Loveless, Legal Drug, Sengoku Nights, and Only the Ring Finger Knows. Notice it's all fluff~  

[Skizzors]

No one really knows. That's why it's up for debate so much. It all depends on what sect of Christianity you belong to, really. I think they all pretty much don't like homosexuality, but it varies from "don't sex for pleasure" to "slaughter the heathens."

Er.. yeeeah.

It's also a personal decision how much of the Bible you want to believe. A lot of it has been changed over history, based on peoples' political agendas. No way to really know what the original Bible said now.

Overall? It's a personal choice. If you feel homosexuality is wrong, then.. it's wrong, for you. If you feel there's nothing wrong with it, you shouldn't condemn it just because your religion tells you to.


As for my personal belief, I'm atheist/agnostic so it's all good. >_>  

[Death PIague]

I REALLY don't like this subject but I have something to say.

I do NOT think just because you are look/reading BL is a "sin", now looking at yaoi in a way you (if you are that kind of person) could count that as a "sin".

I don't think BL/Yaoi is much of a "sin". It is NOT hurting anyone (maybe making some people upset but...and maybe a few artist with stiff hands form all the drawing >>;; ) I mean this could be real people getting rape and then getting pictures posted on the internet about it. Or something even more common, Child Porn.

Think whatever you want to think. I'm not saying anything more. (I don't want the "MAD Moms" after me again)

 

[MooMooJuice]

Forlornhope13

Lol, I didn't know having sex for pleasure was kind of a sin, did you mean before or after marriage? Now that you mention it, I don't understand why homosexuality is a sin, if it can't be helped. So reading BL may be a sin, just no a big one. But are sins weighed equally?

Both, before and after marrige.
Or maybe just before... I'm not too sure.
God told us to be fruitful and multiply... if you're just doing it for pleasure... it kind of goes against that, doesn't it?
I donno. I believe in God and all that, but I'm not up-to-date with the bible or anything, so my memory is fuzzy.
I was taught sins like we see in the Ten Commandments are most sinful, so I believe some could be considered worse than others.
But that doesn't mean you can get away with doing lesser sins, or that you don't have to repent.  

[Forlornhope13]

Kashira Ka04

Forlornhope13

Kashira Ka04

I don't believe reading BL is a sin unless you're reading it for the porn, which you seem to have stated that you don't.

Anyways my veiws on homosexuality are to be debated about, but in what I have come to believe, being a homosexual is not bad, it's the practicing of the lifestyle that is sinful.

((I have quite a lot to say on this subject, but I will not continue.))

Even, so it's actually a matter of, will reading it cause you to sin?

Choice, my dear.

Yesh, I'm a Christain, to be exact a Seventh-Day Adventist~

So, you say being a homosexual isn't bad, but you accept what you are and find a homosexual partner that's sinful? You are a Christian, do you read BL?

Let me clear this up a bit, I'm straight (a girl), and yes, believe having a homosexual relationships is sinful. I aslo read BL: Loveless, Legal Drug, Sengoku Nights, and Only the Ring Finger Knows. Notice it's all fluff~

But any yaoi or hardcore or anything not completely fluffy in the shonen-ai or boy/boy, you wouldn't read?  

[Sheard]

In terms of the bible, it really gets down to which religious faith you're talking about as some are more or less tollerent than others.

I used to work for a video game company and when I did, I had a pretty bad falling out with one Christian friend who considered just owning a video game without even playing it to be sinful (and to be working in that industry that produces them naturally would be a much greater sin.)  

[IceAngie]

Forlornhope13, your letters are killing my eyes!!!

About your question, I don't really know, but I have my own opinion. I'm catholic, and I think there's nothing wrong with reading BL. Do you think God will get mad at you just because you read something?? There are people killing each other out there!!! Look, if reading BL is a sin, it's also a sin to read a newspaper, or watch the news, or read any book in which someone commits a sin (a crime, or any other sin).

Once again, it's my opinion, I'm not a bible expert nor anything like that.  

[Skizzors]

IceAngie

About your question, I don't really know, but I have my own opinion. I'm catholic, and I think there's nothing wrong with reading BL. Do you think God will get mad at you just because you read something?? There are people killing each other out there!!! Look, if reading BL is a sin, it's also a sin to read a newspaper, or watch the news, or read any book in which someone commits a sin (a crime, or any other sin).

There's probably a difference in why you'd read, say, a murder mystery and a BL. You most likely don't watch CSI out of some perverse pleasure for seeing dead people. But you read BL for sexual reasons, even if it's not out-and-out yaoi and you're not masturbating.. you're still willfully seeing something that is (we're assuming, to make the point) sinful, for your own pleasure.

It's not so much what you're reading as why you're reading it.  

[Syntria]

I know somehwere in the bible it says to think about a sin is as bad as doing the sin.

I think if we are saying homosexuallity is wrong according to the bible.
Than us reading it/supporting it would also be wrong. The bible says it's wrong to condon sinful acts. I'm not christian. I like the thought that god would never send someone 'good' to hell. but if we are going by the rules, and saying the bible is the word of god or at least vauge interpritation of what he'd want. Than yes, reading about yaoi would be the same as acting it out.  

[IceAngie]

Skizzors

IceAngie

About your question, I don't really know, but I have my own opinion. I'm catholic, and I think there's nothing wrong with reading BL. Do you think God will get mad at you just because you read something?? There are people killing each other out there!!! Look, if reading BL is a sin, it's also a sin to read a newspaper, or watch the news, or read any book in which someone commits a sin (a crime, or any other sin).

There's probably a difference in why you'd read, say, a murder mystery and a BL. You most likely don't watch CSI out of some perverse pleasure for seeing dead people. But you read BL for sexual reasons, even if it's not out-and-out yaoi and you're not masturbating.. you're still willfully seeing something that is (we're assuming, to make the point) sinful, for your own pleasure.

It's not so much what you're reading as why you're reading it.

You are right about that, maybe my comparison was too extreme, but what I meant is that there are other terrible sins (if you want to call them that way), and I don't think God will pay so much attention at sex related things that don't harm anyone (I'm not talking about rape or that kind of things). I can be wrong, but it's just my opinion. Everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY, is a sinner, there's absolutely NO ONE that hasn't commited a sin. IMO the important thing is how bad the sin is, and how much harm does it make. Oh, and please forgive my awful english... It is hard to me to speak even in my own language.