are the Q gods? Debate.(Spoiler Warning)

[Shopping_Spree_101]

I believe that Q is not a god. Ya know the Q who killed himself? he said that the Q aren't omnipotent, and if my memory serves me, he may have said they aren't gods. My theory is that they are simply a more advanced telekinetic nonhumanoid speices that can also affect the dimensions including time. Therefore they have created their own dimension, the Q continuum. they claim to have always existed, but perhaps they have merely existed for so long they have forgotten their beginning, and with no one to remind them, and a proud streak that compells them to portray themselves as gods, they have declared that they have no beginning. How many of you remember being born after only a decade or two? Think about thousands of years. Plus with time travel, it's just as good as having always existed.

That's my stand. What's yours? I'd love to debate with someone who thinks they are gods.  

[Choboxer]

Shopping_Spree_101

I believe that Q is not a god. Ya know the Q who killed himself? he said that the Q aren't omnipotent, and if my memory serves me, he may have said they aren't gods. My theory is that they are simply a more advanced telekinetic nonhumanoid speices that can also affect othe dimensions including time. Therefore they have created their own dimension, the Q continuum. they claim to have always existed, but perhaps they have merely existed for so long they have forgotten their beginning, and with no one to remind them, and a proud streak that compells them to portray themselves as gods, they have declared that they have no beginning. How many of you remember being born after only a decade or two? Think about thousands of years. Plus with time travel, it's just as good as having always existed.

That's my stand. What's yours? I'd love to debate with someone who thinks they are gods.

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i havent gotten that far yet  

[Saoraan]

I would agree that they are not gods if you read some of the ST books specifically the Q Continuum series Q says that the guardian of forever was built by his ancestors who were corporeal entities like us.  

[Naphatarie]

Saoraan

I would agree that they are not gods if you read some of the ST books specifically the Q Continuum series Q says that the guardian of forever was built by his ancestors who were corporeal entities like us.

But the books aren't cannon.  

[Shopping_Spree_101]

Naphatarie

Saoraan

I would agree that they are not gods if you read some of the ST books specifically the Q Continuum series Q says that the guardian of forever was built by his ancestors who were corporeal entities like us.

But the books aren't cannon.

still, it only supports other evidence that they are not gods. Plus, they may not even be immortal. Just a very long life span. Thank you Saoraan.  

[Emi Uoza]

The Q aren't Gods. They even say they aren't.  

[Shopping_Spree_101]

Emi Uoza

The Q aren't Gods. They even say they aren't.

I know. That doesn't mean people don't believe that they are. This thread is so i could see why people who think they are gods think so. I've run into such people on other threads. I know they exist. See the poll.  

[Shopping_Spree_101]

Shopping_Spree_101

Emi Uoza

The Q aren't Gods. They even say they aren't.

I know. That doesn't mean people don't believe that they are. This thread is so i could see why people who think they are gods think so. I've run into such people on other threads. I know they exist. See the poll.

However, it seems ew of this opinion are on this thread. I'll just wait here until they come.  

[-[.Moo.]-]

In my opinion, the Q are just highly evolved species, like the Shepherds in the non-canon books 'Dark Matters'.
Also, they are similar to the Travelers.
It was mused in one of the Dark Matters books that maybe by the time their universe was ended, Humans may evolve into a species that don't need a universe.
Also, What about Species 8472?
These are all examples of races that can travel through space and time, even distorting the fabric of the universes.

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[Shopping_Spree_101]

-[.Moo.]-

In my opinion, the Q are just highly evolved species, like the Shepherds in the non-canon books 'Dark Matters'.
Also, they are similar to the Travelers.
It was mused in one of the Dark Matters books that maybe by the time their universe was ended, Humans may evolve into a species that don't need a universe.
Also, What about Species 8472?
These are all examples of races that can travel through space and time, even distorting the fabric of the universes.

+==+==+moo+

exactly, thank you!
My only problem with that though is that I don't believe in evolution, rather a Creator.  

[MagnusHansen]

They are not. They are simply another race with seemingly "god-like" powers to lower life forms. Races across the galaxy simply deatize(sp?) the Q.  

[Steel Sterling]

You failed to define "gods" when posing your question.

A "god" is any object of veneration.
Some people make a "god" out of their job, or money, or something else,
and there's people whose lives center around the object of their adoration-
and some of those have made Star Trek that object!

There are even people who make THEMSELVES their focus of adoration.
Praying to oneself is obviously self-defeating, but they DO worship
themselves.

Thus, if some character prayed to a Q, that Q would be a god to that
character.
Anyone remember the Mintakans wondering how to appease "The
Picard"? For a time, a few of them considered Picard a god, and to
them, he WAS one.
Certainly a number of races considered one of the Q (the one played
by John de Lancie) to be a sort of devil, an entity of evil, a dark god.  

[Red Roses in December]

I think that their species has developed immortality and extraordinary abilities beyond our comprehension, but I don't beleive that they are gods. The reason to my beleif may be that in my fanfiction story, my character kills Q. All hail me.  

[Shopping_Spree_101]

Steel Sterling

You failed to define "gods" when posing your question.

A "god" is any object of veneration.
Some people make a "god" out of their job, or money, or something else,
and there's people whose lives center around the object of their adoration-
and some of those have made Star Trek that object!

There are even people who make THEMSELVES their focus of adoration.
Praying to oneself is obviously self-defeating, but they DO worship
themselves.

Thus, if some character prayed to a Q, that Q would be a god to that
character.
Anyone remember the Mintakans wondering how to appease "The
Picard"? For a time, a few of them considered Picard a god, and to
them, he WAS one.
Certainly a number of races considered one of the Q (the one played
by John de Lancie) to be a sort of devil, an entity of evil, a dark god.

Part of this debate is stating your definition of a god and supporting it with canon facts, then stating why the Q is/isn't a god by that definition.