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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:16 am
I don't know why I even go into the GD.
Someone posted about how fun it was to have sex in a graveyard. I can barely describe how irritated this sort of thing makes me. Graveyards are memorials with a lot of emotion invested in them, they're usually considered sanctified in some way, and they're not the sort of place to d**k around.
I'm not saying visitors should keep their heads bowed and never ever smile. But I get pissed about people
-using sarcophagi as benches -leaving their rubbish behind -'humping' obelisks -breaking headstones -stealing bits of broken headstone -getting drunk -making out
There are some weird things I think are totally acceptable, though... such as
-studying -singing to yourself -taking photos -taking gravestone rubbings
I'm interested to see what other people think of as acceptable graveyard behavior. Share your thoughts, oh GGG!
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:20 am
Pretty much with you on this one, if you want a cool graveyard crow style shot, find a rock to perch on, not someones head stone.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:00 am
I'm with you on this one too. It is distgusting knowing that people have sex in graveyards! They shouldn't for it is very disrespectful onlong with stealing bits of headstones and such.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:17 pm
I have to say that for those who have sex in a graveyard, it's the feeling they probably get. I could be wrong, but if I think about it, it seems to me you would feel much more alive. You would be surrounded by those who lived and are now deceased and having a sexual experience. It would highten your awareness to a new extreme...
I do agree though. It's rather disgusting, especially if it's with a corpse.
There is a cemetary rather close to my home, I've gone there some nights to sit and relax. It's comforting to be around those whom have lived at one point. I like to read names, see the length they lived, and to make up stories of their lives.
I rarely go, for it would be rather odd to be questioned why you are there. -sigh- Plus, there isn't really any beautiful cemetaries in my city. They are mainly average and plain.
But, for those who do go there, they go for their own reasons. Wether to morn, to study, or to pleasure themselves, each has a reason. But PLEASE don't litter! BY GOD DON'T LITTER!
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:27 pm
Darkness Is My Life's Blood I visit the local graveyard almost weekly to my respects to my sisters grave, I occasionally see a couple holding hands and walking through, or mourning over someone they held close, but never having intercourse! but as they say, To Each His Or Her Own. Light Is My Deaths Curse
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:07 pm
Ah, the GD never fails to shock rolleyes
But in all seriousness, that is absolutely disgusting; a graveyard is for peace and mourning, not for getting off to a fetish.
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-Resurrected Writer- Crew
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:19 pm
I agree 100%. Do they think people died just that others canhave sex above them? It's just blasphemy.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:53 pm
Getting drunk in graveyards isn't too bad, ever heard of spilling a drink for a love one? Or downing a fifth for the dead? Eh.. Sitting on gravestones is nothing, as is is "stealing" peices of gravestones that broke off. If you broke them off, that's another story. Sitting on a stone shouldn't be a big deal, as you should know that you'd probably be walking over bones anywhoos, seeing how cemetaries always seem to hold one more person, but don't really get much larger, if you get my drift. I don't think much of what you mentioned is overtly disrespectful, other then littering and destroying tombstones. And idiots do that to many establishments. Littering, IMO, is offensive anywhere (but it does greaatly take away from the beauty and serenity of graveyards).
(They might be dead.. but why not party with them? Get alittle life going through those bones, eh? ... sweatdrop j/k)
It's just funny that the orig poster is simply playing off of the novelty of graveyards then commemorating or mourning. Attempting to be "closer to death" by seeming all morbid and hanging out in graveyards doesn't seem to have any place in mourning. Choosing a cemetary as any sort of hangout (for yourself, or with others), acknowledging the dead (either in an 'inspired', or horrified manner) or not, isn't appropiate. I personally don't find making out in a graveyard compared to making rubbings of gravestones to be more irrelevant. While breaking tombstones and littering is absolutely unacceptable in my book (as the law's wink ), being a jerk or trying too hard to be goth or dark or whatever the motive, might be offensive to me, but who cares. If you like being a jerk in public "humping gravestones", or whatever, the only disrespect is done to the self in making oneself a fool. I doubt some spirit is going to feel any sort of pain from that sort of action. If kids like haunting graveyards around Halloween because the think it's spooky, let them, and let them grow up. If 'goths' want to be pretentious or wish to view graveyards as art, let them. Recognizing a place as being beautiful is one thing. But recognizing the dead is another. I don't think hanging out in graveyard alone or at least quietly is bad at all as the respect is for the living. Cemetaries are for family members and friends who wish to honor their dead. The dead themselves require no superficial respect from strangers (Superficial? Yes. Bodies in the ground men nothing compared to the memories of the people who once lived with those skins and bones).
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:59 pm
The_Angry_Fatalist I agree 100%. Do they think people died just that others canhave sex above them? It's just blasphemy. .. lol. Er yeah, if they didn't (how do *you* know you're not sleeping over a grave of a caveman?), the race would die out. Having sex over a grave, now that I think about it, is very respectful and in tune with the proceses of life. >.> <.<
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:46 pm
Veruniel I don't know why I even go into the GD. Someone posted about how fun it was to have sex in a graveyard. I can barely describe how irritated this sort of thing makes me. Graveyards are memorials with a lot of emotion invested in them, they're usually considered sanctified in some way, and they're not the sort of place to d**k around. I'm not saying visitors should keep their heads bowed and never ever smile. But I get pissed about people -using sarcophagi as benches -leaving their rubbish behind -'humping' obelisks -breaking headstones -stealing bits of broken headstone -getting drunk -making out There are some weird things I think are totally acceptable, though... such as -studying -singing to yourself -taking photos -taking gravestone rubbings I'm interested to see what other people think of as acceptable graveyard behavior. Share your thoughts, oh GGG! what about having picnics in the graveyard?
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:30 pm
you should tottaly be respectful in graveyards. you wouldnt want anyone screwin on yer grandmas grave so dont do it on theirs
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:00 pm
I completely agree. Hell I don't even like actually walking on the graves if I can help it. I had a friend who would climb on the gravestones, long complicated story short, we're not friends anymore.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:21 pm
I hate how some people are so disrespectful to the dead.
I go to some of my city's cemetaries at least once per week, as they are wonderful places to walk, read, and contemplate life. They're so peaceful!
However, it deeply saddens me when I see smashed or toppled tombstones... it's highly disrespectful, not to mention it is a completely pointless act.
I'm very good when it comes to cemetaries. During the spring and summer months, I'll pick flowers from my yard, and bring them to the cemetary with me, so I can lay them on peoples graves.
I also have one girl in a nearby cemetary whom I have grown especially fond of. Her name is Mary, and she died at age three in 1795 (I may have the year a tad off...). I'll sometimes buy or make little toys, and leave them for her. Oddly enough, somone else dhas taken up the habit of doing this for her as well, which is really nice. Little Mary, despite being laied to rest over two hundred years ago, still has friends on this earth. heart
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:09 pm
I tend to hang around graveyards (though usually I pick the graveyard in which my older brother is buried...I feel out of place when I sit around a place where I don't have any loved ones buried) just so that I can be alone to think. It's my belief that the spirits of the deceased are most easily channeled in a graveyard as well as that there are spirits/ghosts among the graves.
So generally speaking, I wouldn't do anything there that I wouldn't do in a public park. I think that's a decent enough expectation for others. (With extra rules, of course, such as "Don't ******** play frisbee with your dog in the middle of a graveyard.") Too bad many people still have sex in parks (thus wouldn't see anything disrespectful about doing so in a cemetery). Ugh. Public sex is a turn-on as far as fantasies go...but actually doing it, that's another story.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:37 am
bluerain202 It's just funny that the orig poster is simply playing off of the novelty of graveyards then commemorating or mourning. Am I? It's only natural to want to linger in places that are beautiful and restful, and all the graveyards where I live are very beautiful and restful places. Activities such as studying or taking photographs would crop up whether there were headstones in them or not, since they are essentially parkland. Goths who try too hard are not the only people who go there just for a scenic walk, and I don't think the 'novelty' draws people as much as the beauty. The things in the first list irritate me because they disrupt other peoples' ability to experience these places, whether they're there for quiet enjoyment or be in the presence of the departed. The same activities would annoy me in any public places that are set aside for quiet, but are all the more galling when people are there for serious reasons like mourning. As for the things that don't bug me personally but are arguably disrespectful, let me clarify. I think they're only appropriate within reason. I'd never take a gravestone rubbing in a graveyard that's still in use — I'll only do it in places that are Georgian or older, eliminating the possibility that concerned relatives will think I'm damaging a stone. The same rule holds for photography. And I won't practice my singing if anyone else is in earshot. Why do I do these things at all, then? Because my gut feeling is that the spirits of the dead won't mind, and might actually appreciate someone taking an interest in their monuments. In short, I don't think graveyards have to be set aside only for mourners. But since that's their main purpose, no one should EVER do ANYTHING that will disrupt someone else's grief.
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