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 Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:27 am
In my school's toilet stalls there seems to be a 'trend' for writing stupid stuff on the walls. All started with a few really funny phrases but then the chavs 'got it' and started writing phrases in either horrible Icelandic or horrible English. Or even a terrible mix of both. Anyway, what I saw today finally convinced me of the endless stupidity that goes on between the school's walls. Or at least inside the girl's toilet stalls.
Quote: Thou shall not eat with out punish themselves Ouch. Anyway, what I wanted to ask you people was about the correct use of 'thou-ing' (what is it called anyway?) in English. I think I pretty much have it but I still won't ever use it because if I did, and it came out wrong, I'd sound as stupid as 'they' D:
PS: Feel free to correct my English D:
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:59 pm
Thou used to be the second person informal singular nominative pronoun.
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:18 pm
Lady of Spain Thou used to be the second person informal singular nominative pronoun. Well, duh.
I was more wondering on the conjugation of thou (thee, thy..) and if it exists for other personal pronoms (e?) as well?
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:35 pm
declension, possibly razz Conjugation is for verbs.
Thee is the accusative/dative; thy is the genetive.
And yeah, it does exist for other pronouns, in that all other pronouns have a singular form as well as a plural. "You" used to just be used as the second person plural or singular formal, only for some mysterious reason thou got abandoned and replaced with you.
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:43 pm
Lady of Spain Thou used to be the second person informal singular nominative pronoun. Woah there. haha. he. Could you explain this again but, like, pretending that you're talking to a 5 year old? No, it's ok really. I know what "thou" is without knowing how to apply the descriptive words. whee I love language but I just don't know enough to talk about it. (this effectively means I'm still on the "a verb is a doing word" stage.) heart
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:15 am
Lady of Spain declension, possibly razz Conjugation is for verbs. Thee is the accusative/dative; thy is the genetive. And yeah, it does exist for other pronouns, in that all other pronouns have a singular form as well as a plural. "You" used to just be used as the second person plural or singular formal, only for some mysterious reason thou got abandoned and replaced with you. Declension, yeah. I never really learned any English grammatical words >.<
So is it only the thou that is any different for the pronouns? And I'm right with thinking the verbs that follow usually end with 'eth'? (Thou knoweth, drinketh, sleepeth) Irregular then like shalt, and what others? And do the verbs also change for the other pronouns?
I'd just really like to get this stuff right once and for all sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:38 am
ficklefiend Lady of Spain Thou used to be the second person informal singular nominative pronoun. Woah there. haha. he. Could you explain this again but, like, pretending that you're talking to a 5 year old? No, it's ok really. I know what "thou" is without knowing how to apply the descriptive words. whee I love language but I just don't know enough to talk about it. (this effectively means I'm still on the "a verb is a doing word" stage.) heart I assume you know what I mean by informal. Like tu and vous in French. Second person means it refers to the person/people you're addressing. Singular means you're only addressing one person. Nominative means it's the subject of a verb as opposed to the object. (e.g., I ate the cat - I is the subject and the cat is the object.)
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:43 am
ljosberinn Lady of Spain declension, possibly razz Conjugation is for verbs. Thee is the accusative/dative; thy is the genetive. And yeah, it does exist for other pronouns, in that all other pronouns have a singular form as well as a plural. "You" used to just be used as the second person plural or singular formal, only for some mysterious reason thou got abandoned and replaced with you. Declension, yeah. I never really learned any English grammatical words >.<
So is it only the thou that is any different for the pronouns? And I'm right with thinking the verbs that follow usually end with 'eth'? (Thou knoweth, drinketh, sleepeth) Irregular then like shalt, and what others? And do the verbs also change for the other pronouns?
I'd just really like to get this stuff right once and for all sweatdrop The disappearance of thou etc is as far as I know the only change there's been to English pronouns in the last 500 years. There also used to be "ye", a second person plural, but that usage is somewhat older. It's not quite true that verbs usually ended with "eth" when conjugated. The second person singular ended was usually "est" (thou knowest, etc), and eth was third person (he knoweth.) Very similar to German, where -st is the second person ending, and -t is the third person ending (du gehst, er geht.)
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Foetus In Fetu Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:14 am
Lady of Spain declension, possibly razz Conjugation is for verbs. Don't be a square! If the pronouns want to conjugate, let them conjugate.
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:22 am
Foetus In Fetu Lady of Spain declension, possibly razz Conjugation is for verbs. Don't be a square! If the pronouns want to conjugate, let them conjugate. It's the thin end of the slippery slope.
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:38 am
Lady of Spain ljosberinn Lady of Spain declension, possibly razz Conjugation is for verbs. Thee is the accusative/dative; thy is the genetive. And yeah, it does exist for other pronouns, in that all other pronouns have a singular form as well as a plural. "You" used to just be used as the second person plural or singular formal, only for some mysterious reason thou got abandoned and replaced with you. Declension, yeah. I never really learned any English grammatical words >.<
So is it only the thou that is any different for the pronouns? And I'm right with thinking the verbs that follow usually end with 'eth'? (Thou knoweth, drinketh, sleepeth) Irregular then like shalt, and what others? And do the verbs also change for the other pronouns?
I'd just really like to get this stuff right once and for all sweatdrop The disappearance of thou etc is as far as I know the only change there's been to English pronouns in the last 500 years. There also used to be "ye", a second person plural, but that usage is somewhat older. It's not quite true that verbs usually ended with "eth" when conjugated. The second person singular ended was usually "est" (thou knowest, etc), and eth was third person (he knoweth.) Very similar to German, where -st is the second person ending, and -t is the third person ending (du gehst, er geht.) Ah. Okay, well, although I'm not 100% sure still, that did clear up quite a lot for me, thank you very much :]
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:12 am
Lady of Spain It's the thin end of the slippery slope. The thin end? As in, the bottom? 
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Foetus In Fetu Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:55 am
Foetus In Fetu Lady of Spain It's the thin end of the slippery slope. The thin end? As in, the bottom? Don't try to make sense of mixed metaphors.
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:05 pm
Latin for Beginners By Harry Mountainsofcash Chapter one Conjugating Verbs (present tense) Tesco = I build a superstore Tescas = You go shopping there Tescat = He closes down his local shop Tescamus = We make even more money Tescatis = You feel guilty about it Tescant = They can't stop us ... Just something I found in Private Eye, this reminded me of itXD
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:49 pm
Saw a banner being held up at the England vs. Scotland game. It read;
"There is a god, and Johnny is thy name"
That doesn't sound right to me. It's just two seperate statements isn't it?
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