[Discussion] Homosexuality bad thing? Yaoi considered gross?

[Chii Mademoiselle]

Yeah, ok so like I read Yaoi and
well my friends do too. My friends who are
boys are pretty I guess sort open-minded because
they are not bothered when I tell them I am busy reading something.

But, like when I tell my classmates that I think Boy Love is cute
they sort of go homophobic. Like what's the deal? I think it's fair
that gay's should be accepted, like how lesbians are REALLY accepted by Men. Liek seriously, if a man says I like girl action in public no one is really "erked" but if a woman says I like cute boy drama love in public about 98% of the crowd will say ew.

I have a homosexual friend, but he isn't really into the sexuality
part of it but more of the "girly"part of it like how he likes pink and winnie the pooh, hello ktity, and mashimaro stickers are all over his cellphone.
People stereotype lesbians and gays as people who are just
plain perverted and what to get it on. From the Shounen-ai I have seen and my intervention with my homoseuxal friend I conclude that it's not always like that. Homosexuals also want more than sex itself but also being accepted for let's say liking things of the opposite gender, or how they don't always want a relatioship involving sex but also want that they can have an emotional conenciton with.  

[Konoshy4564]

I agree with you completely. I've said to my cousins and aunts before that it doesn't bother me when homosexuals kiss or show affection for each other and they give me grossed out looks. I also have several homosexual friends. One of them does act like a girl but thats ok. He's really funny and sweet. I wish people would look deeper than someones sexuality before they judge a person. An example is like when another of my friends had lost his school ID. A boy I have a class with found it and as if anyone know whose it was I said it was my friends and when he gave it to me, I say that there was VERY offensive words and pictures written on it in perment marker. I wasn't going to give to him like that so I took it home and used rubbing alcohol which took it right out. I was so upset that I almost started crying. Why would people do things like that? I sometimes wonder if they could live atleast a day in my friends shoes, then they might not do the things that they do.  

[raynebou]

i know the feeling,i have encountered some negativity about yaoi,i just dont listen to them,cause theyre stupid by judging people like that,and i have a friend thats a guy that is really into yuri,and thinks yaoi is gross,i personally dont mind yuri,but i dont like reading it,and he and i argue all the time,its just weird how its ok for boys to like seeing two girls go at it,and then its less excepted for girls to like boy on boy love,so yeah,um thats all i have to say,byez and be proud to be who you are,i even have "i support yaoi"written on my binder in big bold letters,and most people are ok with it,my guess is that it varies from person to person.  

[Rosemary-of-the-Sun]

Matsuo-chan

Yeah, ok so like I read Yaoi and
well my friends do too. My friends who are
boys are pretty I guess sort open-minded because
they are not bothered when I tell them I am busy reading something.

But, like when I tell my classmates that I think Boy Love is cute
they sort of go homophobic. Like what's the deal? I think it's fair
that gay's should be accepted, like how lesbians are REALLY accepted by Men. Liek seriously, if a man says I like girl action in public no one is really "erked" but if a woman says I like cute boy drama love in public about 98% of the crowd will say ew.

I have a homosexual friend, but he isn't really into the sexuality
part of it but more of the "girly"part of it like how he likes pink and winnie the pooh, hello ktity, and mashimaro stickers are all over his cellphone.
People stereotype lesbians and gays as people who are just
plain perverted and what to get it on. From the Shounen-ai I have seen and my intervention with my homoseuxal friend I conclude that it's not always like that. Homosexuals also want more than sex itself but also being accepted for let's say liking things of the opposite gender, or how they don't always want a relatioship involving sex but also want that they can have an emotional conenciton with.

First off, one note: Men thinking girlongirl action is teh hawt /=/ acceptance. Especially since the people most likely to be judgemental are of the gender involved. Secondly, are you mentioning just reading something with gay men in it, or yaoi as in gay porn? Because, no offense, but I'd rather not hear my classmates talk about porn either, it just doesn't fall under acceptable classroom behaviour to me. It's part of their private lives. Perhaps that's the qualm they have with it?


And yes. Homosexuals are real people, and they want relationships for the same reasons as other people.  

[VBunny]

I also agree with your point. Some people are going to be closed-minded, and some people are going to be assholes about it too. There are some people that think that homosexuals are just plain wrong in their eyes, and its their fault that for what ever reason that they're closing off their eyes and their hearts to see that love is love - and people are people. It's not like gay people bleed acid or anything like that..

There's always going to be discrimination agianst one thing or another and some people may get it worse than others.. It's not fair, but that's the way it is.  

[OtakuJeannie]

I would like to point out the paridoxal delicacy of the Masculine Image. Simply put, men are expected to fit neatly in to the manly box and slash/bl fall into the dreaded feminie box (and that is concidered beneath a true man) but at the same time it's not concidered as great an insult if a female tries to 'better' herself by taking on more masculine traits, say being assertive, wearing pants. This is why a female can wear most men's clothing with impunity but if a guy wears something even remotly femine (say it's pinkish) immediatly it's wrong (If I had 1g for every thread complaining that guys could wear skirts, I cold fulfill most of my wishlist now 3nodding )

Also keep in mind Female sexuality isn't culturaly concidered as agressive as male sexuality so we're not supposed to be consuming as much pin-up matereal or out and out smut.  

[The Queen Of Heartz]

I love yaoi, personally. None of my family/friends know about this obsession.. my mom wouldn't mind I don't think (unless it's rated higher than OT.), and my best friend is pretty open-minded.. She was gonna get me the Gravitation manga for christmas, but her mom is a homophobe, and she wouldn't let her. x-o  

[-Incessant Nothing-]

I much agree. I have a straight freind who always talks about yuri, and has countless pictures of it, and yet, when I mention yaoi, I get weird stares. Honestly, 2 hot men making out would be my dream come true. But homosexuality applies to everyone. So long as there is no making out by any two gay mens or womens in public, I'm fine. They can hold hand, or whatever. Heck, I don't even like straight people kissing in publinc, what am I saying?  

[Pervy Sage Jiraiya]

i came out of the closet recently admitting im gay, i havent lost any friend at all. but my mom said that homosexuals go straight 2 hell. i hate those "religious" theories! she told me the story of adam and eve and i tell her is there any proof that happened? its not a written rule that people cant love their same gender. then she tells me watever thank god my kids arent gay! i am sooooooo not telling her......at my school i hav crushes on a few guys but its the kind of school were people harass u if they think yur weird.....they stereotype with homos AND emos.EMOS DO NOT ******** CUT THEMSELVES!! but my friend goes 2 a good high school, u can b gay and even kiss in public (1 of those doods is my friend brandon, yay!!) and people do not harass u they actually supprot u! just like in the eerie queerie manga  

[lesbian_kitten_of_doom]

i don't think ots wrong.... i'm a lesbian and i read yuri and yaoi and a lot of my friends are gay,lez,bi and even my strait friends arw ok with it....  

[RionaDaidouji]

Here's the thing; I wouldn't really call any of my classmates homophobic. I'm sure that if one of the guys were to come out as gay, they'd just say "Okay, whatever". But that doesn't mean that they're fully okay with yaoi or slash.

Like, my teacher mentioned that she went to a convention where people were selling paintings of Daniel Jackson and Jack O'Neil from StarGate SG-1 in sexual situations with each other. (We have weird conversations in class) The guys were baffled about why this was popular. (The teacher also mentioned that they were selling better than any het paintings)

Now, I'm all for yaoi and shonen ai and slash, (as well as yuri, shoujo ai, femslash and het) but I was bothered by that, too.

So, yeah, isn't it possible that the people aren't homophobic, they just don't really want to hear about it?  

[Wires in a Box]

I can't see what homophobic people's problem is. Why do they even care? They're strange.  

[Jayce Reinhardt]

Its a double standard, if I have to listen about a guy and a girl kissing or whatever shouldnt I have the freedom to talk about a boyfriend?  

[goingd]

Pervy Sage Jiraiya

i came out of the closet recently admitting im gay, i havent lost any friend at all. but my mom said that homosexuals go straight 2 hell. i hate those "religious" theories! she told me the story of adam and eve and i tell her is there any proof that happened? its not a written rule that people cant love their same gender. then she tells me watever thank god my kids arent gay! i am sooooooo not telling her......at my school i hav crushes on a few guys but its the kind of school were people harass u if they think yur weird.....they stereotype with homos AND emos.EMOS DO NOT ******** CUT THEMSELVES!! but my friend goes 2 a good high school, u can b gay and even kiss in public (1 of those doods is my friend brandon, yay!!) and people do not harass u they actually supprot u! just like in the eerie queerie manga

I love Eerie Queerie! I own the series! Woot! I'm just saying.

And, the guy who is supossed to be one of my best friends is really weirded out by it and it really annoys me!