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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:32 pm
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This is an issue I'm not sure of, what to think of Vampirism. I try to maintain a tolerance of all beliefs, evaluating the other person's perspective, and making a decision based on the facts. I want to do that with this now. But, my knowledge is limited.
I've been reading up about the difference between "sanguirian" vampires and "psychic" vampires, and the psychic makes more sense by far. Sanguirians can be explained with simple psychology; they are mentally dependant on the act of blood drinking, not physically, sense that is impossible. As far as my knowledge of human physiology goes, drinking another person's or your own blood doesn't give any benefits to the body. Therefore, someone would have to become mentally dependant on (in drastic cases, addicted to) the act to produce any benefits, such as the Placebo effect.
Psychic vampires, I don't know much about. I've read that they feed off of a person's "aura", my guess is through meditation, but I don't know much about auras. I've only heard of it in the context of witchcraft.
One thing I'm very, very skeptical of is the cause of vampirism. The only explanation I've actually heard is that it has something to do with having a "wrong soul", which sounds way too much like otherkinism (which I have already evaluated and decided is bogus).
So...what's your take on vampirism? And if you want to be informative, is it intrinsically linked to spirituality and how? I'd love to know =o
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:57 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:01 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:13 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:14 pm
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The only things I have gathered from Vamperism, in any form, were gained from the book by Konstantinos.
...not my finest moment of purchasing power, I admit...
In any event, I'd label the book complete and total crap, if not for the fact that he, at least, appeared to go thru the entire investigationg on the matter in a manor somewhat based on what appered to have been logic.
In any event, better reading on the subject exsists, so I am to believe. Katherine Ramsland has done severel books on the subject of "real" vamperism, as it is viewed, and I've heard she's a very good, objective and intelligent source on the matter.
That's all she wrote on the matter as far as I know.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:11 am
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:25 am
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:36 am
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missmagpie However, I did know a psyvamp who was going through chronic depression and fed off of others because that's honestly how she felt she was meant to get energy. I would suppose her natural energy levels may have been low because of her illness. People who think they're missing something often try to find it elsewhere. It's easier than tackling the actual source of the problem.
Hmm. I've run across someone similar to this, though they weren't a self-proclaimed psychic vampire, there was little question that they were based off both his self reports and the atmosphere of those around him. For this case, though, it wasn't just clinical depression that was the problem, but his entire lifestyle, unfortunately. While it's okay to get strength from other people, it's also important, as you suggest, to work on the actual source of the problem at the same time.
Other than this case... and a documentary I wached on the subject of real vampires (and who knows how accurate and unbiased that was), I don't have much experience with them. Certainly not enough to have much of a formed stance on them. I do think, though, that it might be misleading to say the problem is wholely mental. We know through modern research that there isn't nearly as much separation between mind and body as drilled by old ideologies. A mental dependence has a physical component (in the form of synaptic pathways).
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:43 am
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:53 am
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TeaDidikai Sovereign of Darkness http://www.sacred-texts.com/goth/vc/index.htm Vampire Codex. Supposedly, they need to feed off of everybody because they are missing a chakra point O.o Which is not the case in any of the PsiV I have met. I had a feeling that it was a crock o' crap. Then, I don't have any PVamp's that I know to compare this knowledge to (and I refuse to pay $30 some-odd for the Temple's book)
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:33 am
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Sovereign of Darkness TeaDidikai Sovereign of Darkness http://www.sacred-texts.com/goth/vc/index.htm Vampire Codex. Supposedly, they need to feed off of everybody because they are missing a chakra point O.o Which is not the case in any of the PsiV I have met. I had a feeling that it was a crock o' crap. Then, I don't have any PVamp's that I know to compare this knowledge to (and I refuse to pay $30 some-odd for the Temple's book) It would be a moot point. The Temple's actions are a function of communion with their gods, not a function of need.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:24 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:59 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:41 pm
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:24 am
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Eshmasesh TeaDidikai Edit: Of note- I have my own idea as to why the Temple practices as it does, and to be honest- it makes me giggle to think that people are paying money to be used like that. As for those parasites who say "We need it/We can't help ourselves!", I think it's a pathetic copout and that such people are pretty much the scum of the earth. So the temple is a scam? I read a little bit of the site yesterday. From what I read, that was my first impression. "You MUST buy this book from the temple. Even if you already have it, you must buy it from the temple anyway! If you use the book and you are not in the temple, you will get the vampire curse! wooOooOo..."
Sounds like the goth form of scientology.
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