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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 3:40 am
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I don't know what PSHE is, so if this point is irrelevant, ignore me. But not all Pro-lifers are christian. Or even religious. Many of them wouldn't particularly care what the Book of Leviticus said about it. To make this essay more of a complete argument, you should spend more time focussing on non-religious arguments.
That said, I do agree with you, and you've made some good points.
and_solo_said Abortion is murder, goodbye
It's funny, but when you argue a point that well, I find myself automatically disagreeing with you, regardless of how I feel on the matter. Look at it this way. A 13 year old girl gets raped, and ends up getting pregnant. If she has the baby, her education will most likely go out the window, as she won't have the time or the money to go to school AND raise her baby. She'll also find it very hard to get a well-paying job. As she is alone, poor and far too young for motherhood, her child won't do too well out of it either. It'll be raised in relative poverty, and being only 13 years younger than its mother, she'll have a hard time controlling it. I'm not even going to go on with this example, you can clearly see it's heading nowhere good.
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 3:44 am
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Erix Griffon I don't know what PSHE is, so if this point is irrelevant, ignore me. But not all Pro-lifers are christian. Or even religious. Many of them wouldn't particularly care what the Book of Leviticus said about it. To make this essay more of a complete argument, you should spend more time focussing on non-religious arguments. That said, I do agree with you, and you've made some good points. and_solo_said Abortion is murder, goodbye It's funny, but when you argue a point that well, I find myself automatically disagreeing with you, regardless of how I feel on the matter. Look at it this way. A 13 year old girl gets raped, and ends up getting pregnant. If she has the baby, her education will most likely go out the window, as she won't have the time or the money to go to school AND raise her baby. She'll also find it very hard to get a well-paying job. As she is alone, poor and far too young for motherhood, her child won't do too well out of it either. It'll be raised in relative poverty, and being only 13 years younger than its mother, she'll have a hard time controlling it. I'm not even going to go on with this example, you can clearly see it's heading nowhere good. I agree with that, but if the mother is having an abortion solely because she doesnt want a child, that is murder. If she is very young, and has been raped, or has a disease that could be passed on to the child, the mother will need to have an abortion, whether it is murder or not PSHE, by the way, is Personal, Social and Health Education
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 3:52 am
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 4:11 am
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 4:31 am
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 6:24 am
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:18 am
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:32 am
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:35 am
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Indie_Chick Arivel Erix Griffon Look at it this way. A 13 year old girl gets raped, and ends up getting pregnant. If she has the baby, her education will most likely go out the window, as she won't have the time or the money to go to school AND raise her baby. She'll also find it very hard to get a well-paying job. As she is alone, poor and far too young for motherhood, her child won't do too well out of it either. It'll be raised in relative poverty, and being only 13 years younger than its mother, she'll have a hard time controlling it. I'm not even going to go on with this example, you can clearly see it's heading nowhere good. Ever heard of Adoption? yes, but some are against that.
They prefer murder?
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:37 am
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and_solo_said Indie_Chick Arivel Erix Griffon Look at it this way. A 13 year old girl gets raped, and ends up getting pregnant. If she has the baby, her education will most likely go out the window, as she won't have the time or the money to go to school AND raise her baby. She'll also find it very hard to get a well-paying job. As she is alone, poor and far too young for motherhood, her child won't do too well out of it either. It'll be raised in relative poverty, and being only 13 years younger than its mother, she'll have a hard time controlling it. I'm not even going to go on with this example, you can clearly see it's heading nowhere good. Ever heard of Adoption? yes, but some are against that. They prefer murder? Well, the child might be unhappy living with adopted parents, and it'd cause hassle when they found out. I dont feel this way ( i cant be anti abortion and anti adoption) but i know some who do.
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:38 am
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To be honest, I'm totally and utterly pro-choice.
Abortion isn't wrong. It's not murder, because you can't kill something which never really had a life in the first place. I know a twelve year old who got pregnant and had an abortion. After thinking that it was pretty disgusting - she wasn't raped or anything - I actually thought that it's better than her having the kid, and giving it a somewhat poor quality of life, knowing she wouldn't be able to look after it. On top of that, she'd be ruining her own education. Abortion can be stupid [more for getting pregnant in the first place], but definately not wrong.
Now she's fourteen, and she's pregnant again. She's keeping the baby this time, though. She can't look after the baby while she's at school, so what's she meant to do? Stay off of school to look after it? She can't TAKE it to school, and it'd be unfair to tell her mother or father that either of them have to stay off of work to look after her mistake. On top of that, the father is no longer interested. When this girl is twenty-five, her child will be eleven years old. How will she support her child, because it's gaurenteed to mess up her education to some degree or another. And without a decent education, she'd be lucky to get a decent job to support her child.
Sometimes it's best for the mother and the baby.
The point about rape has already been made, I feel no need to repeat it.
And on top of that, no matter what the age is, some people just aren't ready for a baby. Twenty year olds, thirty year olds.. And if they have a baby which they don't want, how's the kid going to grow up? Isn't it better to wait until you want a kid, so that you can be ready and really love it?
A bunch of cells, whilst technically alive, never really had a life. It doesn't think, or feel. It's not murder. If abortion was murder, it'd be illegal.
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:38 am
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Indie_Chick and_solo_said Indie_Chick Arivel Erix Griffon Look at it this way. A 13 year old girl gets raped, and ends up getting pregnant. If she has the baby, her education will most likely go out the window, as she won't have the time or the money to go to school AND raise her baby. She'll also find it very hard to get a well-paying job. As she is alone, poor and far too young for motherhood, her child won't do too well out of it either. It'll be raised in relative poverty, and being only 13 years younger than its mother, she'll have a hard time controlling it. I'm not even going to go on with this example, you can clearly see it's heading nowhere good. Ever heard of Adoption? yes, but some are against that. They prefer murder? Well, the child might be unhappy living with adopted parents, and it'd cause hassle when they found out. I dont feel this way ( i cant be anti abortion and anti adoption) but i know some who do. My grandparents are against my uncle adopting, but the girls he got were being abused, why should anyone be against their extracation?
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:43 am
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and_solo_said Indie_Chick and_solo_said Indie_Chick Arivel Erix Griffon Look at it this way. A 13 year old girl gets raped, and ends up getting pregnant. If she has the baby, her education will most likely go out the window, as she won't have the time or the money to go to school AND raise her baby. She'll also find it very hard to get a well-paying job. As she is alone, poor and far too young for motherhood, her child won't do too well out of it either. It'll be raised in relative poverty, and being only 13 years younger than its mother, she'll have a hard time controlling it. I'm not even going to go on with this example, you can clearly see it's heading nowhere good. Ever heard of Adoption? yes, but some are against that. They prefer murder? Well, the child might be unhappy living with adopted parents, and it'd cause hassle when they found out. I dont feel this way ( i cant be anti abortion and anti adoption) but i know some who do. My grandparents are against my uncle adopting, but the girls he got were being abused, why should anyone be against their extracation? I meant if the child is put up for adoption just because the mum doesnt want him/her, not if theyre being abused or anything
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:46 am
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