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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:41 am
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:19 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:31 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:13 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:31 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:39 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:14 pm
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:19 pm
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TeaDidikai Not everyone has the potential for such talents. In my work in the community, I have met people who are now and always will be def and blind in the psychic sense. No amount of instruction will change this.
I guess I've tended towards the assumption that almost everyone has the potential. However it would be hopeless to prove that point because everyone has not and will not ever develop them for whatever reason. I suppose my assumptions have always been a little egocentric!
TeaDidikai Do you feel that awareness beyond the five senses benefits you on your path as a) A function of Faith...
Since all perceptions are on faith, yes.
TeaDidikai ...and/or b) Giving you a tool to better apply the pragmatic aspects of faith including but not limited to working with different forces to supplement the real world efforts you make in your daily life?
Oh, absolutely.
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:08 am
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:36 pm
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:14 am
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I'm a bit curious to perhaps hear some examples, Didikai, of those you have met that you feel will forever remain psychically deaf. What is the basis for this assessment? How can this sort of thing be determined? I suppose I question this because to say someone will never be able to do something is making quite a strong statement.
I'd also like to raise another possibility. What if these individuals who are supposedly deaf to these things are not actually deaf to them, but are simply labeling the experiences in a different way or are unaware they have the talents? That is a certain kind of deafness, but it does allow for the potential to hear. Sometimes people aren't aware of their own talents and they need to be pointed out. Since a lot of magic/psychical working is mental, the person's mindset has much to do with it.
Sure is possible that some will never be aware of their talents, never label what they do as psychic, or just plain be deaf. I think the potential for change is always there though, just as the potential for the supervolcano in the northwestern US to blow it's top is always there. Chances can be abysmally low that it'll happen 'right now' but there's ever a chance of occurence. And again, since much of magic/psychical working is mental, if I tell someone "some people never develop this talent" that will reverberate in their minds and may consequentially put a binder on them. If a person believes they'll never develop a talent, chances are high that they never will, eh?
Then there's another question to be raised as to whether or not there is such a thing as awareness beyond the five senses. To say we only have five senses is slightly oversimplified; the human body can detect a wide variety of signals. Synching these together, combined with the schematic and heuristical constructs of the brain, can produce 'psychic' experiences. Putting it simply, there is a valid scientific explanation for these so-called sixth-senses. I've yet to see or hear of anything that fails to be explainable with an understanding of human physiology and psychology. That doesn't mean there might not be something going on beyond that, but it does beg additional consideration in the topic.
Yeeck.. that's 'nuff said for now.
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:52 am
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:22 pm
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I think that certain forms of sense beyond the five are possible in everyone... to a certain degree. Some of us are natural artists. We can draw, and we always have, we can create things, and we always have. One can learn to draw, but one cannot learn to create art. I believe it is much like that. It is a skill, but it is also an art.
Having said that, I cannot say that I am particularily attuned with any sort of 'sixth sense.' I get feelings, premonitions. I can read people well (in person), but I think that has more to do with the fact that I am a loner and I have spent a lot of my time observing others. I wouldn't call myself an empath... But I tend to project my emotions on to others, and others' emotions can have a profound impact on me. Though I notice that while on medication, this isn't as strong...which is kind of nice. I think I naturally learned how to shield myself from it shortly after junior high started. But I have never been able to block it out entirely. I have a strong intuition (or gut instinct) that I have found is rarely wrong...but I'm not sure if that is the same thing. Other than that though, I'm pretty dead in that area. I might be able to learn it. But I honestly have no desire to. I don't see it being particularily useful in my life.
In regards to faith and Divinity. I don't know, I don't really associate that with any sort of psychic ability. If that is what it is to be able to Speak/Hear/Feel Divinity, and other entities, then I think it is innate in all people. And will grow with experience in these things. I never had to 'work' at that... it all just sort of came... in small steps though.
In the newagey pagan scene, it really seems like snazzy '3l33t psychic powerzzz' are a little overexhaggerated and too much emphasis is placed on them. *shrugs* It all seems rather hokey to me.
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:29 pm
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Starlock I'm a bit curious to perhaps hear some examples of those you have met that you feel will forever remain psychically deaf. What is the basis for this assessment? How can this sort of thing be determined? I suppose I question this because to say someone will never be able to do something is making quite a strong statement. The most obvious from my personal experience would be my mother.
As for the basis for the assessment- a few factors play into it which are not limited to a complete and total lack of resonance outside of the self. It would be impressive if it didn't make me ill.
Quote: I'd also like to raise another possibility. What if these individuals who are supposedly deaf to these things are not actually deaf to them, but are simply labeling the experiences in a different way or are unaware they have the talents? That is a certain kind of deafness, but it does allow for the potential to hear. Sometimes people aren't aware of their own talents and they need to be pointed out. Since a lot of magic/psychical working is mental, the person's mindset has much to do with it. Nope. I said what I meant. She isn't able to experience on any level anything beyond the five physical senses. She doesn't even have what I have heard some call "Motherly Intuition".
I've seen this in other people as well. It's actually very interesting, and while I do not dismiss outright that some people may experience things in different manners- these people aren't counted amongst them.
Quote: I think the potential for change is always there though, just as the potential for the supervolcano in the northwestern US to blow it's top is always there. Chances can be abysmally low that it'll happen 'right now' but there's ever a chance of occurence. Show me where the potential for me to grow a second nose on my left a** cheek of my own accord is.
Nope. Some things are impossible. You have a personal problem with being told No. You might want to get over that.
Quote: And again, since much of magic/psychical working is mental, if I tell someone "some people never develop this talent" that will reverberate in their minds and may consequentially put a binder on them. If a person believes they'll never develop a talent, chances are high that they never will, eh? Again. No. "A bright child will find a way to overcome poor instruction". My Nana said that a lot when I was growing up.
Quote: Then there's another question to be raised as to whether or not there is such a thing as awareness beyond the five senses. To say we only have five senses is slightly oversimplified; the human body can detect a wide variety of signals. Actually, it's a system of classification, not a statement of the nature of the universe.
Quote: Synching these together, combined with the schematic and heuristical constructs of the brain, can produce 'psychic' experiences. Such as Panic. But we aren't speaking about those kinds of experiences. If I intended to address that- I would have made a different topic.
Quote: Putting it simply, there is a valid scientific explanation for these so-called sixth-senses. I've yet to see or hear of anything that fails to be explainable with an understanding of human physiology and psychology. How about auric sight that has been tested to NOT BE retinal burn.
By the way- Didikai is not a name.
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