Enterprise Rumor

[Odin Von Dursfel]

So before Enterprise came out, there was a rumor going around that they were going to make the series about Sulu and the Excelsior. *faints at the thought of that beautiful Starship*

Anyways, just wondering if anyone else had heard those rumors.  

[Steel Sterling]

Yes, but I doubted it was more than just fans talking.

My favourite rumour was that ST:TNG was going to include an appearance
of the Federation Starship the USS Kirk,
which would be staffed by all the kids Kirk fathered in the original series
when he kept fooling around with women on every Away Mission.


My second favourite rumour was that in Insurrection, Data's emotion-chip
was controlled by The Clapper.

mrgreen  

[Ken5hachan]

I allways liked the idea of the USS Kirk..
I thought they should have revitalized the series with Kirk and Spock's b*****d children on a new ship. How godly awsome would that be?
Yes, Spock does have a b*****d child
*is someone who perhaps reads too much into TSFS*

Also, there's been a good deal of talk going around paramount about an Excelsior mini series starring George Takei, but there's been no closeure  

[StateAlchemist Natsu]

I think it would have been better if they had stuck to the timeline the Gene Roddenberry created, rather than what they did with Enterprise, or went into an alien time line like the Vulcans or even the Klingons.  

[lepetitchou]

StateAlchemist Natsu

I think it would have been better if they had stuck to the timeline the Gene Roddenberry created, rather than what they did with Enterprise, or went into an alien time line like the Vulcans or even the Klingons.

Aw, I thought it was a good idea to go backwards. I mean by Voyager everything was so far of nobody knew what the hell was going on.
De-teching was a smart move but they messed up a little with all the drama stuff. I mean Trek has always been dramatic but at times Enterprise was kinda soap opera-ish.
I dont' know about an alien timeline thing. The de-teching make their world more easily understandable but alienfying would probably leave us humans in the dark.
Except for those few Klingon Academy graduates out there. whee  

[MagnusHansen]

lepetitchou

StateAlchemist Natsu

I think it would have been better if they had stuck to the timeline the Gene Roddenberry created, rather than what they did with Enterprise, or went into an alien time line like the Vulcans or even the Klingons.

Aw, I thought it was a good idea to go backwards. I mean by Voyager everything was so far of nobody knew what the hell was going on.
De-teching was a smart move but they messed up a little with all the drama stuff. I mean Trek has always been dramatic but at times Enterprise was kinda soap opera-ish.
I dont' know about an alien timeline thing. The de-teching make their world more easily understandable but alienfying would probably leave us humans in the dark.
Except for those few Klingon Academy graduates out there. whee

I think that what lepetitchou is saying is that Enterprise didn't adhear to the original G.R. Star Trek timeline...  

[Odin Von Dursfel]

MagnusHansen

lepetitchou

StateAlchemist Natsu

I think it would have been better if they had stuck to the timeline the Gene Roddenberry created, rather than what they did with Enterprise, or went into an alien time line like the Vulcans or even the Klingons.

Aw, I thought it was a good idea to go backwards. I mean by Voyager everything was so far of nobody knew what the hell was going on.
De-teching was a smart move but they messed up a little with all the drama stuff. I mean Trek has always been dramatic but at times Enterprise was kinda soap opera-ish.
I dont' know about an alien timeline thing. The de-teching make their world more easily understandable but alienfying would probably leave us humans in the dark.
Except for those few Klingon Academy graduates out there. whee

I think that what lepetitchou is saying is that Enterprise didn't adhear to the original G.R. Star Trek timeline...

Though really, the end of DS9 really did have alot more Federation technology than Voyager did, just cuz Voyager's been out of contact so long.  

[MagnusHansen]

Don't put any investment in rumors... stare  

[Steel Sterling]

MagnusHansen

lepetitchou

StateAlchemist Natsu

I think it would have been better if they had stuck to the timeline the Gene Roddenberry created, rather than what they did with Enterprise, or went into an alien time line like the Vulcans or even the Klingons.

Aw, I thought it was a good idea to go backwards. I mean by Voyager everything was so far of nobody knew what the hell was going on.
De-teching was a smart move but they messed up a little with all the drama stuff. I mean Trek has always been dramatic but at times Enterprise was kinda soap opera-ish.
I dont' know about an alien timeline thing. The de-teching make their world more easily understandable but alienfying would probably leave us humans in the dark.
Except for those few Klingon Academy graduates out there. whee

I think that what lepetitchou is saying is that Enterprise didn't adhere to the original G.R. Star Trek timeline...


The thing that guaranteed Enterprise would crash and burn was the
complete disregard of the continuity.

The service industry-and broadcast programs are in the service industry-
operates under the 80/20 rule.

80% of your business is done by 20% of your customers.
They are what is known as your "regulars."
Without them, you are out of a job.

So, all Trek shows nowadays begin with a fanbase of Trekkies.

The smart thing to do is to make sure the new show doesn't go out of its
way to anger the existing fanbase. If they anger the fanbase, they'll
avoid the show. Then all you have is film in a can, and no market for it.

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Many of us agree-and all of us so far agree-
that it made sense to take a step back and go into the past.
The technology that solves problems in 20 seconds or less was making
it hard to fill an hour. Further, filling in gaps in the chronology can be
interesting.

Problem was, Rick Berman said he didn't think it was important to mind
the continuity. That was a BAD sign.

That meant that things a lot of fans cared about would be completely
disregarded. That meant they didn't care they were angering fans.

A different issue was the costumes and props. I think we can all agree,
to a point, that it makes sense to "look the other way" about those
looking better in the new series than they did in the original series
which supposedly happens later. These are cosmetic and don't affect
the story, mostly. We also had Andorians with moving antennae, while
the original series had Andorians with stationary antennae. We chose
to overlook the improvements in special effects. Those don't affect the
story.

What DOES affect the story, however, can anger fans.
For example, the first Constitution-class ship (like the TOS Enterprise)
that was retrofitted with phasers was the USS Hood. Before that,
the Constitution class had lasers, and other classes did not have
phasers. However, in "Enterprise", we see ships a century before
the Hood was equipped, getting phasers.


If they wanted to engage the fans, they would have sat with a chart
of the chronology, and said "how did we get from HERE to THERE?"
and make some stories-or plot elements in larger stories-
reflect the plan to fill in the blanks. As someone said once, Earth went
from a late technological arrival to the home of the UFP in a few
hundred years, and now Earth descendants run most of the show in
Starfleet, and seem to have most of the colonies across Federation
space. Why don't we get to see how they became so important, so
fast?