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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:19 pm
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Now, when I say guardian angel, I know many will automatically come up with the image of a being all in white with wings and (possibly) a harp.
To clear this up from the start, I mean it in a purly non-religious specific way, I don't confine the idea to exist souly in one religion's ideaology. Therefore I want no comments like "that's a *insert religion* idea, quit stealing them" "that's a *insert religion* idea, *insert religion* is wrong and so they don't exist"
both types of comments are offencive, if you've got a problem, say it in a constructive and meaningful argument for one way or another, they'll be appreciated far more if you show intelligence in your arguments.
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This is a quite common belief I've found, many people I know have felt a comforting presence when they were/are afraid or sad, others have had a very near accident and swear something made them avoid it, and believe it was the doing of guardian angel
Others (and the same people) also belive they have someone guiding them through life, helping them in life and generally aiding them; spirit guides.
And again, others belive they are one in the same and are just around to help out.
There are many, many sources of information on this topic, and they are as varied as they are abundent. I'd like to know your opinions, experiences and general thinking on spirit guides and guardian angels, have you spoken with a higher being? Do you believe a family member or friend is still looking out for you? I'll post up mine on here in the future, but right know let's hear some other stories biggrin
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:09 pm
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:56 pm
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:13 pm
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Ahh, multiple personalities, very interesting subject as far as I'm concerned, some strange theories I've heard as well. (note that it's quite easy to diagnose it because each seperate personality resides on a different brain wavelength - that's it simply, I studied it in psychology but i've kinda forgotten it sweatdrop ) anyway, I've had it suggested to me that it's two or more souls/spirits etc in one body, or even a wandering spirit wanting a body again, which is interesting to say the least (supernatural explanations for the scientist's realm is always fun to me biggrin )
mm, departed souls, another source of protection from beyond, though for some reason when some people are given contact or beive they have they always ask for answers to things that they'll never be able to answer.....I'm clairaudient (I hear ghosts/spirits/the like, not see them) whenever someone finds this out I'm immedeately bombarded with things like: "can you ask my grandma if I should marry this person?" "does ganddad think I should do this/that?" "am I making the right choice, can you ask my mum if I'm making the right decision?"
Though, my answer is invariably that I can't commune with the dead like that, go to a proper medium, not me, and that just because someone has passed on does not mean that they are now imbuned with celestial knowlege and an all-encompassing wisdom, they can't tell you what to do, decide for yourself.
oh...gods...fey... well, it's definately preferable for them to take interest in you instead of a dislike to you. What they are I'm not certain myself, but I've had encounters...lets say.. not to mention a friend thought it would be a good idea to do fairy magic...heh...bad move let's just say...
lol, the angels get all the credit I think it's all the hype.... Again, it's certainly...... interesting that people with departed relatives believe they immedeately beome angels...it's certainly uncomfortable when a kiddie asks about her angel mum...I didn't really have the heart to explain...she was so cute..... sweatdrop
mm, there's definately more out there, I've not personally experienced any but there have been glimpses (not to mention a few, frankly, scary as s**t encounters with a less than amicable ******** thing...not a pleasent experience I'll tell you - and it sure as heck wasn't any kind of ghost/spirit/angel or whatever else I've felt...waaaay too powerful). Though of course if something is out there, I'm guessing it knows how to keep its self quiet and secretly lead us on a merry path to gods-knows-where....
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:45 pm
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The reason I don't believe that angels do half as much as they are credited with is because angels aren't humans, nor the souls of human beings. Angels were created by god to do his work for him, and to praise him. They are genderless beings with no free will that were created (most think before humans) to cator to god's whims. There are different kinds of angels with different purposes and "jobs" if you will, but there really aren't many that are actually designated to do anything on the behalf of human beings. There might be messangers, but "guardian angels" usually aren't angels at all, but something else.... I would say usually someone departed watching over someone generally.
You don't want me to get on the topic of Multiple personalities... razz
Lucky or sadly depending on how you look at it, I don't communicate with the spirits of the dead. I don't hear things, the best I get are just vauge impressions on things, and that's sporadic at best. Sometimes I can "Feel" that something should be done, but I just can't put my finger on what.
I do feel bad for the dead spirits that linger not out of personal attachments, but because they can't move on yet. I used to watch a lot of ghost shows when I was younger, and a lot of the time I would really feel sorry for the souls of those who just couldn't accept the fact they were dead and tried to continue to live their lives like nothing had happened, or where trapped because of unresolved issues. I used to wish I could find a way to resolve things for those souls so that they could move on and no longer be trapped and fettered to those spots.
(sees myself drifting off topic again)
I think one of the best sources for the belief of dead relatives watching over us would be eastern cultures like in China and Japan. ^_^ There are monuments to their dead ancestors and they do ask for help and guidance at those monuments in times of trouble.
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:34 am
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angels..complicated topic, I'm not too sure myself because I haven't had much contact with the angellic hoardes, but guardian angels, yes, and I've always found they're slightly different for sure, just never really been able to pin it down.
I'm not too sure who has the better deal, people who are oblivious to spirits and the like or those who can commune with them, it's not fun either way and it's certainly not easy to go from one to the other very quickly (I had a brief absence of and activity on that front for a week or so once....it didn't sit well with me....very, very lonely if you're used to it). I mainly specialise in the helpers (spirit guides, guardian angels, and randoms things that will talk to me) but I'm by no means an expert - too young and inexperienced sweatdrop
hm, the souls that can't move on...well, there's usually a reason why, the whole "unfinished buisness" is mainly a hollywood/tv thing - but not untrue, the most common reason is fear of the beyond, but other reasons as well, also, mainly with the child ghosts, they just don't understand what's happened and so it's a bit hard for them to move on. But, there;s always a reason for things I've found, so some are hanging about for some reason that we don't know I'm certain.
mm, I know about those shrines, I'd like to go a see a few for myself, see if I can have a chat with someone xd though, I don't personaly enjoy cemetaries or places where people are mourned because there's just far too much collected misery (not because of ghoasties and spirits, they don't really like cemetaries I've found, it's too 'dead' for their liking I think).
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:49 am
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:25 pm
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I just stay the hell away from cemetaries, just not my thing (slight nightmare when I have to go to a funeral....).
Mmm, it wasn't so much being cut of from talking to the dead as talking to my guides (best way to describe them, they hang around with me whatever they are, I'm not particularly keen to go into them in more detail though I'm afraid), I've got quite a strong bond with them and having them cut off from me was...disconcerting at the very least. I don't want to repeat it in any way shape or form ever again because it was just so, hm, frightning is too strong a word, but there was a definatly sense of loneliness and yes, fear. One of my friends that knows about my freakyfulness was actually amazed about the way I felt without them, for some reason she'd gotten it into her head that I disliked them and thought I'd love not being able to hear them.
I've also found that those without much experience with this are fearful, other friends who have tried a ouija board were completely scared out of their minds....though ouija boards are a pretty dumb-a** way to try communicating with anything....whether they work or not (scaeptical as I haven't tried one at all, and I'm not too keen to either) is up to debate - they may just be people's subconscious working them, it's definately a possibility to me - but if it's real mthen you're bacisally putting up a "free party with dumb-asses" to the beyond...not a very good thing to do at all.... But most of what I've heard from ouija board users when they hadn't experienced anything 'supernatural' before was that it was damn scary.
Hollywood...irks me at best....I tend to stay away from anything it produces unless it's meant to be a load of bull-crap. Anything that says "based on a true story" you'd have to pay me and drag me into watch....I'm not asking for anything absolutely true, just less complete shite....
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:42 pm
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:44 am
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3 out of 4 Americans beleive in Angels of one kind or another. Now, wether that's the biblical defention, or justpowerful ethereal begings, I don't know. I know that everyone is entitled to hteir opinions on the matter, as it's just as possible I am insane. It's also possible they've just never encountered one or felt it. But here's my experience, take from it what you will.
Being Shamanic, I beleive in multiple planes, much like the current Multiverse theory. There are upper and lower planes. These aren't Heaven and Hell, justdifferent levels of energy. Earth is a fairly low-energy plane. Objects are solid, shapes defined, ect. On higher planes, the physical is much less important. And there are those 'angelic' or 'astral' beings that move lower, I don't know why, maybe they feal obligated to help, or just want to...
But that's whatI beleive some of these 'guardian angels' are. True, some are probably hallucinations or smoke or random chance. But some stories and accounts are just too coincidental for science or random chance to explain. And they don't justhang around whenever there's trouble. There are spiritual beings around us everyday, we just don't bother to feal or notice them. Som people can. Some are born able to do it, others after years of training. Maybe someday I'll be able to.
Maybe I'm just crazy, but that's my experience.
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:45 pm
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Leith 3 out of 4 Americans beleive in Angels of one kind or another. Now, wether that's the biblical defention, or justpowerful ethereal begings, I don't know. I know that everyone is entitled to hteir opinions on the matter, as it's just as possible I am insane. It's also possible they've just never encountered one or felt it. But here's my experience, take from it what you will.
Being Shamanic, I beleive in multiple planes, much like the current Multiverse theory. There are upper and lower planes. These aren't Heaven and Hell, justdifferent levels of energy. Earth is a fairly low-energy plane. Objects are solid, shapes defined, ect. On higher planes, the physical is much less important. And there are those 'angelic' or 'astral' beings that move lower, I don't know why, maybe they feal obligated to help, or just want to...
But that's whatI beleive some of these 'guardian angels' are. True, some are probably hallucinations or smoke or random chance. But some stories and accounts are just too coincidental for science or random chance to explain. And they don't justhang around whenever there's trouble. There are spiritual beings around us everyday, we just don't bother to feal or notice them. Som people can. Some are born able to do it, others after years of training. Maybe someday I'll be able to.
Maybe I'm just crazy, but that's my experience.
Don't worry, I understand perfectly well about that and it's something I believe myself 3nodding That statistic includes people that don't connect angels with any religion, I'm sure. I'd certainly like to see some statistics on what my countrymen and women think of angels because we seem to be very sceptical as a whole.
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:54 pm
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:13 am
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:19 pm
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:30 pm
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