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Hoxtalicious

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:45 am
It's today and tomorrow and it's all about Forge World's Horus Heresy stuff, with plenty of previews and whatnot, something GW doesn't do any more because otherwise they'll need to sue another aftermarket parts company again.

Biggest reveals so far:

Samus the daemon thing:

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A Thanatar variant:

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Enginseer Auxilia:

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Auxilia command squad:

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Xiphon pattern interceptor for the Space Marines, which looks like a cross between something from Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica:

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The "Sokar" pattern Stormbird:

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And an Ordinatus engine, this most likely being a Minoris class weapon system:

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Tomorrow they're going to unveil the next in their Primarch series, which is probably going to be Dorn, followed by Corax.

After that, expect a massive influx of Ultramarines, Word Bearers and traitor Auxilia.  
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:51 am
Some more pictures while we await the seminars to kick off once more.

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New Dreadnought Deodeo variant with plasma fusil blaster things.

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New Predator variant, most likely equipped with an accelerator autocannon.

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In the foreground, new Mechanicum stuff: An Enginseer and Scyllax Guardian automata.

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The new flyer.

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The upcoming Solar Auxilia units: Charonite Ogryn, command section and a Lord Marshal.

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Stormhammer!

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Auxilia support weapons.

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Alpha Legion character.

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Samus the daemon and the two event-exclusive HH models.  

Hoxtalicious

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Hoxtalicious

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:44 am
No primarch yet, though they did confirm that they are working on a Warlord Titan. burning_eyes

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:52 am
Next Primarch has also just now been announced.. Guilliman!

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Primarch - good reason not to show. Not finished.
Guilman. By Simon Eagan
Horus size with base, lots of banners, out at Warhammer World in May (hopefully)


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Hoxtalicious

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:25 am
And a better picture of the WIP so far:

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Also, book V and VI will be all about the Shadow Crusade and the Underground War, both of which take place around Calth and the Ultramar system, while book VII will be about the sacking of Prospero and give us.. Space Wolves. Thousand Sons. Sisters of Silence. Adeptus Custodes. burning_eyes  
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:09 pm
I really wish I had a job so I could just BUY IT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

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Hoxtalicious

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:24 am
Sean King
I really wish I had a job so I could just BUY IT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thankfully I haven't been bitten by that bug yet. sweatdrop

I'm actually glad that the Solar Auxilia command squad is pretty "meh", means one less thing I'm forced to buy.  
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:05 am
From a Q&A session held then, mainly regarding the future of the Mechanicum:

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Flesh And Steel.
Alan Bligh, Mark Bedford, Edgar Skomorowski, Tony Cottrell

Subject – the Solar Auxilia and the Mechanicum

Initial ‘reveal’ – that an Ordinatus model (BIG!) is work in progress at FW right now… and it will be bigger than a Baneblade!

The Solar Auxilia – aggressive defence tactics, force landings and then defend the beachhead.
The Solar Auxilia are – just like the Legiones Astartes – split in the Horus Heresy… some of them have fought with Horus or other Traitor legions for years/decades… naturally in many cases they have formed tight links with these legions, so in many cases have followed them into treachery.
Looking at the new SA ogryn models:-
ES: This Ogryn design is a kind of halfway house between the Solar Auxilia infantry and tanks.
AB: The Ogryn rules in “Conquest” are WAY toned down from the initial version!
These ogryns are ‘stitched’ into their armour and then switched on – organic killing machines, but deliberately not in the style of the Mechanicum. They actually have an ‘off’ switch on the back of their head! Also a kind of cage on the side of their head to stop them biting the medicae.

Mechanicum:-

MB: John Blanche’s artwork is a major inspiration for the Mechanicum. Tech-priests are the ‘human’ face of the Mechanicum – and there are much, much worse than them yet to be seen. MB wants to do the ‘crazy’ ones… the Mechanicum are the ultimate recycling army, they re-use absolutely everything left laying around after a battle, including body parts. MB likes the creepy guy look.
AB: I have at least one army where I drilled the eyes out! &hangs head in shame, laughter&
MB: The whole look of the Mechanicum is deliberately different from the rest of the Imperial forces… Mech tanks look fragile, but have lots of energy shields instead of armour. They always keep the best stuff for themselves and let the Imperial forces have the lesser gear… Legion Land Raiders, for example, are inferior to the Mech forces.
AB: Must remember that the 30k Mechanicum are NOT the 40k Adeptus Mechanicus. They are a kind of shadow empire, only partially part of the Imperium. The Dark Mechanicum have split off from the main track because they don’t want to obey the rules that have been imposed upon them (by the Emperor etc).. But we have to remember that the Mechanicum haven’t split right down the middle in the same way as the Legions… in many ways, the Mechanicum has split more. Some of the Dark Mechanicum don’t so much follow Horus as just want to rebel against the strictures of the Mechanicum – example, Cyclothrathe – they are out on the edge of the Imperium, and what they’ve found out there has driven them mad.
The Legio Cybernetica are a kind of compromise from the age of (now banned) sentient machines – the LC have artificial intelligence but not artificial sentience – they aren’t self-willed, sort of artificial beasts. However, as the war goes on and supply chains get disrupted (on both sides) it starts getting hard to replace the cortices in the robots – the Dark Mechanicum will start to take short cuts and try using daemons instead – although this is later, doesn’t happen immediately. Even during the Great Crusade, some of the Primarchs were started to get worried abou how many battle-automata were being created – suspected that the Mechanicum were building up to take on the Imperium itself? Although there are differing levels of suspicion amongst the Primarchs – for example, after a while (after the start of the Heresy) Perturabo starts to mistrust his own legion so much that he has a bodyguard of battle-automata created, instead of using his own legionaries.

Q: Will there be a red book for the Mechanicum?
TC: Yes, but not just yet – there is more yet to add.

Q: Will we see some of the odder sub-cults of the Mechanicum? (such as the electro-priests from 40K).
TC: A lot of 30K stuff isn’t seen in 40K and vice versa – the Mechanicum has evolved a lot.
AB: The 30K Mechanicum has no set organisation – a lot of it is ad hoc (the Taghmata are likened to a feudal ‘raising of banners’) and varies wildly between forge worlds. We may see some bits of the unusual stuff, but the 30K Mechanicum army we see is the ‘macro’ army, the more common stuff.

Q: Will we see 30K Skitarii?
TC: Skitarii are 40K Adeptus Mechanicus troops, their role has pretty much already been covered in 30K – if they are seen, they are likely to be quite different from what you’re used to.

Q: Will there be more types of Ordinatus?
TC: In 40K, each Ordinatus machine is unique, and they are very rare. In 30K they are somewhat less rare, so we will likely do some variants.

Q: Will you cover the relationship between the Mechanicum and the Iron Warriors? Rules and background?
AB: We will cover how the Iron Warriors’ relationship with the Mechanicum evolves – ditto with the Iron Hands, Salamanders – even the Dark Angels (my note – interesting!). After they became one of the Shattered Legions, the remains of the Iron Hands cope in different ways – fight back, start a guerrilla war, some basically go mad. Some turn to forbidden tech – the Keys Of Hel.
MB: Some legions desperately need to replace lost warriors, and quickly…

Q: Will there be any weapon packs for the Mechanicum? For Myrmidons?
MB: Yes, we’re doing them now, but they’re not ready yet.

Q: Will you produce rules for the tech used by the Raven Guard? Reflex shields, etc?
AB: That all depends on the space available in the books. Some stuff – like that Raven Guard gear mentioned – will be left to later books.

Q: After having seen the illustration of the Mechanicum Ordinatus being planned, are you going to be using CAD (Computer-Aided Design) more?
TC: We will be using it more, but still using old-fashioned sculpting as well – kind of a fusion of the two. We will model by hand and by computer – were are not a CGI company!

Q: Are there any Solar Auxilia heavy weapons coming?
TC: The SA don’t tend to carry many heavy weapons.
AB: Most of the SA’s heavy weapons are machine-mobile rather than shoulder-carried or the 40K Astra Militarum two-man fixed teams… they will use Rapier platforms and such. There will be some other heavy/special weapons coming – such as snipers? (Joke about unicycle Rough Riders).

Q: Will there be any Mechanicum transfer sheets?
TC: Yes – we have just taken on someone (Jez Goodwin’s daughter, in fact) just to do decals & brass etchings and the like. Previously they’ve been done by various artists in between other projects, if a bit of spare time came up. Now that we have a dedicated person for this, there should be a lot more.

Q: Will there be a Kelbor-Hal model and rules?
AB & TC: We need to get the narrative to Mars before doing something like that. We will be doing at least one book on Mars later – within the next 4 books perhaps? (my note – if what is mentioned in later seminars is true, then at the earliest this would be Book cool .

Q: In one of the Garro audios there is a kick-a** Mechanicum flyer – will you be doing model/rules?
MB: I have some ideas… &laughter&

Q: (Sorry – didn’t hear the question!)
AB: The Scyllax are guardian-automata, they are defensively orientated and have no cortex. Very little of them is organic, for obvious reasons – inside them is a rad-furnace, they are intended to kill with rad weaponry. Sort of the Mechanicum equivalent to the Legion Destroyer squads.
 

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:47 am
And here's what they got planned for the fifth ("Tempest") and sixth books, concerning the Shadow Crusade:

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Tempest.
Alan Bligh, Andy Hoare, Tony Cottrell

The other totally packed-out seminar… previewing Book 5 of the FW hardbacks.

Release date – Spring 2015, hopefully in time for the Grand ReOpening of Warhammer World in May.
Book 5 is about the Word Bearers’ assault on Calth – covers about 30 hours of battle. Does NOT cover the underworld war, that comes later.
Factions covered – Ultramarines, Word Bearers, Mechanicum, Imperial Militia, Warp Cults, Knights Titan Legions.

AB: Background on the XIII Legion – the biggest legion of them all, approx ¼ million legionaries. More background on the Word Bearers and how they are changing. More background on Knights and Titans, including one loyalist Titan Legion that dies on Calth. Army lists – militia and cults, Some new Legion units.
Calth – is representative of the Imperium as a whole, a work in progress, growing – and smashed by the Horus Heresy.
AH: A new Knight house (didn’t hear it very well – something like Vornher?) – the largest in the Segmentum. We created them specifically to destroy them… although there may be a handful (not on Calth) that may survive.
TC: Book 6 will probably cover the Shadow Crusade – hopefully will be released before the end of the year/ Will hopefully cover the World Eaters, the underworld war, etc.
Also planning an FW ‘Modelling Masterclass’ book, to be brought out between Books 5 & 6.
Then Book 7 – Prospero?
The next Primarch model in the Character series will be Guilliman – also hopefully ready for May.

Q: Are you going to produce rules for the Shattered Legions?
AB: We couldn’t fit it into Book 4. The Shettered Legions will require a different approach, all based around small-unit rules for Marines. We’re not sure what book it will go in – unlikely to be the next one… maybe a separate smaller book? Not sure yet.

Q: Can you tell us more about the Imperial Militia and Warp Cults?
AB: This won’t be a huge army list – you will have numbers on your side, but not much in the way of elite forces. Lots of diverse options, from poorly-equipped troops with outdated weapons to something closer to that of the Imperial Army.

Q: Will Daemon Angron be in the next book?
AB: Wait and see…

Q: When you come to do Prospero, which models will you bring out first – the 1000 Sons or the Space Wolves?
TC: We’ll do them both at the same time.

Q: How did you choose the weapons for Guilliman, seeing as he’s known to have a huge armoury of them.
TC: There was a lot of debate over that one, we finally went with power first and sword.
AB: There was a vast selection available, but all of the primarchs have such.
TC: And they are all followed by a little caddy?
AB: Fist and sword seemed particularly symbolic for Guilliman.
AH: He’s armed as he was at the end of “Betrayer”.

Q: Will the two Calth books be done as a boxed set?
TC: We may do a slip case for the two.

Q: Will we see a weapons upgrade pack of gladii for the Ultramarines?
TC: Possibly.

Q: Will there be much on daemons in the Calth books?
AB: More in the second than in the first.
AH: They’ll only be mentioned relatively briefly, there’s not enough warp presence initially for them to manifest much.

Q: When will we get the character model of Corax?
TC: Some of the preparation work has already been done, but there’s not a fixed schedule.

Q: Which characters of the XIII Legion will get rules?
AB: Guilliman, a certain dreadnought, a very important captain. Some will be saved for the second Calth book. There will be 2-3 speciality units.
TC: And there will be at least one new Word Bearers character, plus revised rules for some of the existing EB characters.

Q: Prospero – what will be in it? And what do you see as being the main challenge?
AB: It will be hard to do the Custodes and Sisters Of Silence properly. Plus various agents of either side. Doing the Thousand Sons will be tricky – got to get the psychic rules just right.

Q: Will there be rules for Oll Persson and other non-Astartes?
AB: Probably not… but we may eventually do an “Agents Of…” book.

Q:
AB: One thing that is covered in Book 5 is what the Ultramarines were like and what they did before Guilliman was found. What Ultramar is, why the XIII Legion is so large, and why the Emperor lets them have what is basically their own mini empire – the reason for them ruling 500+ worlds.

Q: What will you be doing on the Mechanicum in Book 5?
AB: A few new units, some updates. There is an eventual plan to have a Mechanicum red book.
TC: The Ordinatus is NOT in Book 5.

Q: Will there be a book on the Death Of Innocence? < civil war on Mars>
AB: We’ve always planned on it, might include the blockade of Mars, the Solar War, etc.

Q: Will Argel Tal appear in Book 5?
AB+TC: Not in that book – maybe Book 6.

Q: Can you give us details on the new Legion units?
AB: A new fighter, a Stormbird – mainly vehicles this time.

Q: Can you give us any details on the campaign system in Book 5?
AH: It will be in a similar format to the other books. We want to avoid making it the wargame of “Know No Fear”. It will be broken down into 3 phases, and you will need to win all 3. If you win, you won’t save Calth – the objective is to survive and preserve as much as possible. Plus there will be some generic missions.

Q: Covering the changes in the various Traitor Legions, will you provide optional upgrade to existing army lists or bring out new lists?
AB: A bit of both. There will be more Rites Of War. There will be some extra units, some existing units will just be changed.

Q: How do you temper the rules when creating Primarchs?
AB: Right from the start we worked out the various power levels etc for all of the Primarchs and Legions – collaborated with John French.

Q: The XIII Legion have always been very ‘vanilla’ in 40K – how do you get past that on the tabletop in 30K?
AB: Ignore 40K. Examine what they are in 30K and it develops from there.

Q: Will there be any more legion relics in the campaign system?
AB: Probably… but no ‘book of relics’.

Q: Is there any reason that you have bypassed some of the Primarchs when bringing out character models?
TC: It’s not that easy to do them all in order – we will come back to do Corax, Perturabo etc… just prioritising.
AB: It’s a little hard to do rules for the Imperial Fists at Phall, so it was kind of hard to Dorn at that time.

Q: The new Guilliman model – will you be making it a set with Lorgar? (a la Fulgrim & Ferrus)
TC: No.

Q: Will you do the mission of the story in “Macragge’s Honour”?
AH: There will be some mission/campaign stuff related to it.
 
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