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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:05 pm
What did you think of V for Vendetta? Britain under the thumb of a fascist dictator, the U.S. in anarchy...?
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:41 pm
What, we need to see a film for that? o_O
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:20 am
And I thought movies were meant to be escapism lol
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:12 am
I've been looking forward to seeing it for a while now. The trailers look promising and there is an awful lot of potential in that sort of plot. Especially in the current socio-political climate.
Some of the reviews have been disappointing, but I hope they're being unjustly unkind.
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:01 am
I have it on good authority that the comic signalled a watershed in plot (well, I was also told The Watchmen was probably more important but that does not diminish the importance or, you could argue, iconic status of it). Before then all the comics had been simple mindless superhero comics like Superman. Apparently, V for Vendetta originally included a fair but of thinking: surely the most dim-witted would have caught the debate that may arise about differing styles of government: the master versus slave argument.
So, the film is being reviewed considering the source material it had to work with. A passable attempt on Asimov (I, Robot) is better than a score of action films; as is Phillip K d**k (Total Recall), asking questions about the nature of self, and having an alien with three breasts.
Still, I want to see V. I was told to read it before I see it but there is no time now. The main worry is that it will be turned into an action film when it was not an action comic, thus ignoring all the intelligent parts that gave it cult status.
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:59 am
I'm seeing it next Saturday. Me and my friends meant to go yesterday but it never really happened. So I'm hoping it will be on for 2 weeks at the crappy little cinema I go to.
Some of the thinking films can get really bad ratings if the reviewer was wanting an action film. At least thats what happened with Revolver.
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Shadow of an Illusion Crew
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:53 am
AWESOME. (I went to see it on the 17th)
I know it has gotten bad reviews (although most of them seem to circulate around V's mask and Natalie Portman's god awful attempt at an English accent) but I loved it! Especially the end sequence. There's humour in there, dark and witty. Stephen Fry plays a great character called Deitrich, Stephen Rea was also brilliant.
It's got some good action scenes where people get properly killed (not any of that piddly knocked out or no blood stuff.) and all the while it looks critically at government, the state of fear, religion, bigotry and racism.
If you like dark comic books, you will like it. If you have a thoughtful mind and a good sense of humour, you will love it.
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:44 pm
maeve_wickett What did you think of V for Vendetta? Britain under the thumb of a fascist dictator, the U.S. in anarchy...? I saw it today! I thought it was brillaint! Not the totaly best it could be. The "autobiography" of the woman written on toilet paper almost made me cry. I would have but i was with all my mates and they would have laughed. I loved the idea, people don't know how close we came to that. That there is still a real threat with terrorism. Stephen Fry was brillaint too i liked the game show bit. Over all i think good film, my kind of thing to watch and what also makes it better is it is set in England making it a bit more personal to me.
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:57 pm
I'm just back from it and thought it was brilliant. I agreen about the gameshow, it was really funny. I think I can see why there is that bad teeth stereotype, the teeth weren't too nice. Anyone notice that one of the government people's name was really close to Cheney? Or was that just me over-analysing? I can't really comment on the accents since it was in cinema 3 (a crappy narrow little room, aweful sound quality) but it seemed reasonable to me. I quite liked that how it showed that a little bit of religion can be fine (the god is in the rain part, Evie) but how religion can be manipulated and turned into something bad. There's too much "all religion is bad and only leads to bad things and is just for silly narrow minded people" stuff going about and it's been irritating me.
I've been trying to work out but I'm still not sure, is the Britian symbol the obvious British government or is V? Or both?
It's the conservative government that's the baddies. Although their colour is red.
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:49 am
ice_illusion It's the conservative government that's the baddies. Although their colour is red. I haven't seen it yet (though my brother has) but I saw some pretty obvious Labour imagery in the trailers. How did you conclude that it's more tory-based?
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:22 am
Invictus_88 ice_illusion It's the conservative government that's the baddies. Although their colour is red. I haven't seen it yet (though my brother has) but I saw some pretty obvious Labour imagery in the trailers. How did you conclude that it's more tory-based?It said it was the conservative government. And it showed the percentage of people voting after something happened and it said conservative there. A lot of the other stuff fitted in with labour, I think it might just have been a way of allowing the film to go ahead without getting into trouble.
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:16 am
ice_illusion Invictus_88 ice_illusion It's the conservative government that's the baddies. Although their colour is red. I haven't seen it yet (though my brother has) but I saw some pretty obvious Labour imagery in the trailers. How did you conclude that it's more tory-based?It said it was the conservative government. And it showed the percentage of people voting after something happened and it said conservative there. A lot of the other stuff fitted in with labour, I think it might just have been a way of allowing the film to go ahead without getting into trouble. Maybe so.
I was sure I was right! But no, it's now clear that you were.
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:50 am
I have seen the film. It's great! The only problem I had was why did the tower of Big Ben explode when teh explosives were on a train?
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:29 am
Lord Jagged I have seen the film. It's great! The only problem I had was why did the tower of Big Ben explode when teh explosives were on a train? That is a good point. But it did look pretty. The train did go under the tower, which would make it fall down. I think he must have set something up with fireworks too.
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:28 am
It wouldn't have loked so cool if all it did was crumble into the underground.
It is written about a conservative government, the comic was written at the time of Thatcher's Britain and when you realise that you see where his visions of the future came from!
It is however certainly nudged up to date- bird flu, america's war and red banners scream Labour to me- but then I suppose it is a bit scary how the same issues apply to our Labour government and the Conservative Thatcher government of twenty years ago.
Good stuff. 3nodding
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