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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:38 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:20 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:54 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:01 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:32 pm
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Nuri Sounds like an archtypal diety structure within a generic neo-pagan framework. Hair-pulling for some of us, but with a few tweakings, valid. I agree whole-heartedly that tweaking must take place.
Nuri Maybe to help you figure out what you believe, and a general framework, can you describe what you don't like about neo-paganism?
I'm not partial to the emphasis placed on deity. I don't connect well to the idea of personified deities, or even talk of what deity is. I'm not comfortable with cultural rape, but I'm not prepared to become a reconstructionalist, either. I don't accept the existence of the soul (and the overwhelming majority of neo-pagans just seem to believe it's there, without really knowing why, or having reasons that I can't personally accept).
Most of the neo-pagans I've come across are more interested in magic than introspection. With accumulating and learning transcient things, often rejecting the value in not knowing, in unlearning.
I also have a problem with how vehemently people cling to their perceptions and their opinions as though they were absolute truths, and that I'm somehow inferior or in need of "education" for thinking otherwise (or not thinking at all) - but this is more of a problem with people in general and not just the neo-pagans in general.
I'm also not comfortable with the idea of having to survive on a wage. Of having to work for a company to earn money so I can exchange it for what I need to survive (which the Earth produces for free anyway - food, water, shelter). Again, this has more to do with people and our culture in general than it does neo-paganism.
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:48 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:27 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:19 pm
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Nuri Actually, that makes a lot of sense, as Tea said. It actually strikes a chord within myself, except I do emphasize diety and soul. Tea makes sense here, an intergraded spiritual and living seems most appriopriate. I'm not even sure you need a specific path to tell you what you believe. If you need a community of like-minded people, take a look at some of the following keywords: Green Living Voluntary Simplicity Organic Living Heck. You don't even need a community. I do just fine hunting, fishing, animal husbandry (when I have the space) digging shell fish, gardening, wild crafting, trapping etc- without a whole community who agrees with my lifestyle let alone my spiritual path. One person in my social circle has common values and desires and the rest are along because of safety (going up into the woods alone is not a good idea).
With or without a community of support it is completely possible to create the kind of lifestyle you desire.
This is also why the common holidays resonate with me as they do. These seasons mark shifts in my diet and activities in social artistic and sustenance related expression.
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:47 am
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:11 am
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:37 am
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:39 am
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:45 am
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:41 am
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