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Tiina Brown

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:35 am
Yes, what is the latest update on SOPA & PIPA?

See, it seems i have gotten opposing info, i heard they would start debating it in Congress yesterday, but on another site, someone linked me to a place that said congress ditched it during Friday already!
And the Wikipedia shutdown is scheduled for tomorrow?

Do any here have some reliable info, please?  
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:53 am
I'd be interested in knowing this myself.

Rich douches gonna richly douche, but it'd be nice if this didn't pass. sad  

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:09 am
Google, Wikipedia, Yahoo, etc are still going on Jan 18th. They will not back down until both of those anti-freedom bills are burned into oblivion.  
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:14 pm
It's got no chance of passing.
Politicly more so then anything else.

Hell all the democrats have to do is 'force' the bill in front of Obama to veto....bingo.
Instant election win.  

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:19 pm
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It's got no chance of passing.
Politicly more so then anything else.

Hell all the democrats have to do is 'force' the bill in front of Obama to veto....bingo.
Instant election win.

Conspiracy

It was all planned for Obama's reelection. dramallama  
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:12 pm
Looks like Congress has shelved the Bills temporarily:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/21/technology/senate-postpones-piracy-vote.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57362675-503544/pipa-sopa-put-on-hold-in-wake-of-protests/

Also, OPEN, another bill like PIPA/SOPA, is being pushed as an alternative option now (and, in many ways, it is better, but... I don't know why we need anything these bills are pushing for in the first place, IMHO), especially since Lamar knew SOPA wasn't going to survive (and rightfully so):

http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/20/2721418/sopa-bill-withdrawn-by-lamar-smith

What, IMHO, should be concerning a lot of people, especially non-Americans, is ACTA, which is like an International version of SOPA/PIPA, thats been going on since 2007 (which the EEF has been combating since). And I mention this because Anonymous just took up arms against Poland's (Gov't's) recent decision to start supporting ACTA too:

http://www.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/83910,Anonymous-shuts-down-Polish-PMs-web-site  


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:14 pm
Interesting fact, ACTA was signed by the US government on Oct 4th 2011.

The Obama Admin had it at a national security level secret.

Now it's trying to make other countries adhere to USA law.

Time for another tour of the world to apologize for what America does?  
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:33 pm
The interesting thing is - it's actually been the Republicans withdrawing support en masse. For example, of the senators that withdrew support, 16 were Republican and only 3 were Democratic.

That's huge - even though the Dems suffered a major loss in their Senate caucus in 2010, they still have a majority in the upper house of 54 to 46. It also puts me in a position that I'd never thought I'd be in where my position is the Republican one.

As I understand, though, the bill has been withdrawn for the interim. If conditions become more favorable, then it might be pushed through. On the other hand, I believe the major contenders for the presidency in both major parties are choosing anti-PIPA and anti-SOPA positions.

This does NOT mean that it can't still be passed - it takes a 2/3 majority in both chambers of Congress to override a veto, and before the Internet threw a bitchfit, both bills had wide support. It just makes it that much more difficult.

What little I know of ACTA is vague, so I'm not quite in panic mode over it yet. More like an, "Oh s**t, this could be bad" position.  

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:55 pm
ACTA?
Oh, s**t, but i'm sadly not surprised.  
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:32 pm
In other terms...

WHY IS THE US GOVERNMENT SO SCREWED UP?

If our founding fathers saw the US today and some of the bills they try to pass/have passed, they would be so sad to see their hard work turned into a oligarchical cesspool with its elected leaders creating and passing very socialistic acts to "benefit the national integrity of the United States and its citizens."

So...when is the Civil War 2.0 gonna happen?  

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:36 pm
Eudaemon
In other terms...

WHY IS THE US GOVERNMENT SO SCREWED UP?

If our founding fathers saw the US today and some of the bills they try to pass/have passed, they would be so sad to see their hard work turned into a oligarchical cesspool with its elected leaders creating and passing very socialistic acts to "benefit the national integrity of the United States and its citizens."

So...when is the Civil War 2.0 gonna happen?

The fact that most of them are lawyers/former lawyers (who don't know how to use a computer) doesn't help any, I'm thinking.  
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:59 pm
Eudaemon


So...when is the Civil War 2.0 gonna happen?


Never, because if it did, it would be over before it began.


Honestly, our internal government isn't that screwed up. You just have to look passed all the superficial layers of politicians blowing hot air at eachother to see the real underworkings of it. There are too many checks and balances for any one group of people to completely ******** it up, even though it may look that way.

The country will develop how the country develops. We aren't some third world nation where the leaders can do whatever they want, they have to worry about re-election (which, is pretty much what will kill SOPA and any SOPA like bill) The future of the USA is pretty independent of who is running it. Like river rafting, we may elect a guy to steer the boat, and he may or may not dodge a couple rapids, but we're still going to end up at the bottom of the ******** river.




I know we like to scream "THE FOUNDING FATHERS WOULDNT APPROVE OF THIS" but thats just as ******** as saying "JESUS WOULDNT APPROVE OF THIS". Since what everyone thinks of the founding fathers is a disneyfied rose tinted glasses version. Saying the founding fathers wouldnt like something is both pointless, and proves absolutely nothing other than the person who says it knows nothing about history.

Just like Jesus, who was obviously a sassy black lady with an afro, and keeps getting depicted as a scrawny white guy, much to her chargin.  

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:00 pm
Jayce Reinhardt
Eudaemon
In other terms...

WHY IS THE US GOVERNMENT SO SCREWED UP?

If our founding fathers saw the US today and some of the bills they try to pass/have passed, they would be so sad to see their hard work turned into a oligarchical cesspool with its elected leaders creating and passing very socialistic acts to "benefit the national integrity of the United States and its citizens."

So...when is the Civil War 2.0 gonna happen?

The fact that most of them are lawyers/former lawyers (who don't know how to use a computer) doesn't help any, I'm thinking.


That's why they're

BRINGING IN THE NERDS  
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:04 pm
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Jayce Reinhardt
Eudaemon
In other terms...

WHY IS THE US GOVERNMENT SO SCREWED UP?

If our founding fathers saw the US today and some of the bills they try to pass/have passed, they would be so sad to see their hard work turned into a oligarchical cesspool with its elected leaders creating and passing very socialistic acts to "benefit the national integrity of the United States and its citizens."

So...when is the Civil War 2.0 gonna happen?

The fact that most of them are lawyers/former lawyers (who don't know how to use a computer) doesn't help any, I'm thinking.


That's why they're

BRINGING IN THE NERDS


That will be the next dubstep song.

bringing in da nerds bringin in bringin in bring in da nerds! *crappy dubstep wail*  

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:11 pm
I thought Obama already said he wouldn't sign it. :/

Maybe I'm mixed up, though.  
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