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What do you think of the definition? |
Its' fine the way it is. |
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It needs something put in (more in post) |
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It needs something taken out (more in post) |
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The whole thing needs a complete makeover |
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:16 am
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According to the Pagan Pride Day website, a Pagan is defined as the following:
A Pagan or NeoPagan is someone who self-identifies as a Pagan, and whose spiritual or religious practice or belief fits into one or more of the following categories:
Honoring, revering, or worshipping a Deity or Deities found in pre-Christian, classical, aboriginal, or tribal mythology;
and/or Practicing religion or spirituality based upon shamanism, shamanic, or magickal practices;
and/or Creating new religion based on past Pagan religions and/or futuristic views of society, community, and/or ecology;
and/or Focusing religious or spiritual attention primarily on the Divine Feminine.
I have no problems with this definition. However, some may. We've had some rather heated discussion on the boards as to whether this definition is alright, especially when it comes to Satanists (some argue they're in there, others don't) but that's neither here nor there. What I want to know is what do you, oh learned members of the Guild, think of this definition? Does it need work? Something put in? Taken out? I'd like to get your opinions. ^^
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:33 am
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:18 pm
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:35 pm
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I am so late in posting to this... but hey. EladrinStarmist A Pagan or NeoPagan is someone who self-identifies as a Pagan, and whose spiritual or religious practice or belief fits into one or more of the following categories: My first problem- "Self Identifies" is pretty meaningless. The point of language is to communicate an idea. I officially "self identify" as a cocker spaniel. No- I'm not a quadruped. No I don't care of the historical use of the word has nothing to do with self identification. I'm a cocker spaniel and that's that.
Quote: Honoring, revering, or worshipping a Deity or Deities found in pre-Christian, classical, aboriginal, or tribal mythology; First stopping point. By that, Jews could be pagan.
Quote: and/or Practicing religion or spirituality based upon shamanism, shamanic, or magickal practices; Having read the Apostles Creed and the creeds that spawned it- Christianity is one hell of a Neo-Pagan religion.
Quote: and/or Creating new religion based on past Pagan religions and/or futuristic views of society, community, and/or ecology; ~looks left. Looks right~ Past Pagan religions? Heh... the dual accounts of creation in Genesis with a word to describe a host of gods within the first account, the use of Lilith, ha-satan, and a host of other spirits from Middle Eastern "non-YHVH" based faiths?
Quote: and/or Focusing religious or spiritual attention primarily on the Divine Feminine. Which just makes me twitch. But then, there are people who view YHVH as a woman.
To be blunt, I find it to be a broken definition. Pagan, in the sense of an exclusive term, over an inclusive term makes far more sense.
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:51 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:37 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:49 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:06 pm
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:54 am
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:51 am
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:06 am
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:25 pm
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:19 pm
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So far, none of these definitions really seem to help define the word 'Pagan' at all. Paganism is such a wide-spread and diverse belief that it can't be pinned down so easily. Is it just someone who believes in magic? Probably not, because I'm sure there are Jews, Christians, Hindus, etc. who believe in that sort of thing.
Then what exactly? I myself choose to believe in what feels right to me. I can't say I've studied most of the topics all of you are speaking about, but what I can say is that most of the lists I've read include dozens of other religions and faiths.
What about the various faiths that came about from the Native American cultures and tribes, or the aborriginal people in Australia, or even those in Africa? Do we call them Pagan too? By Christian term, Paganism is just about anything BUT Christianity. On that account, I might be a bit foggy.
Feel free to yell at my ignorance, supply me with corrections, or do anything else that you see fit to stop this FB from going on any further.
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:27 pm
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:37 pm
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