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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:18 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:23 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:47 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:54 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:56 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:38 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:37 pm
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:00 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:39 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:42 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:38 am
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I love to eat meat, now before anyone shoots me down, hear me out.
Because I said I like to eat meat, some people may automatically put me in with the beefheaded crowd of ignorant fools who know nothing about that which goes on in meat factories. But nay, I have seen the movies, I have seen a factory, I have been on about ... *counts* 5 different farms and worked on one for three days. So I have seen what animals go through. Now I say it is quite regrettable that these creatures are subjected to pain and such but you have to consider... Humanity is at the top of the food chain, there is no doubt about that (even though some humans have been eaten by other animals but thats slightly beside my point sweatdrop )
Although in my opinion animals should not be placed on a higher pedastal than humans, that still does not mean that people can treat any animal any way he or she wants to. If an animal is going to be killed for food, its death should be quick and painless, because I know that is how I would want my own death.
Since the dawn of man, humanity has been hunting and killing animals for sustenance and support. and when they did, they put the whole animal to use. They turned the bones into tools, the skins into clothes, did you know the membrane of deer brain can even be used to make drums. That is how I support my meat eating thesis, using the old "Dawn of Man" example... it's tried... but true
Now When I read a previous post in this topic, stating "Typically i tend to place more value on animals than humans..." I felt deeply saddened. Yes, animals are living things, but you have to remember, even though as a race, we humans are deplorable and evil by nature there are good people out there. Now what is a worse statistic? six million men women and children killed in the years of World War Two, or six million animals killed in the past year? If given the choice between saving a kitten, or saving your own mother, I am no doubt sure less value would be placed on the kitten regardless of what is said. (And believe me, I do love kittens, I really really do, but if it is between fluffly and mommy... Mommy has to come first on the list of people to rescue from death)
Also! Animal testing (Medicinal testing not cosmetic testing, I TOTALLY am against cosmetic testing). Again... regrettable that animals must be sacrificed but it is thier sacrifice that produces viable medicines useable for human consumption that can save thousands of lives. Again, the tradeoff is a cute little lab rat to save someone' sickly old mother. In my opinion, it is an acceptable trade.
That is not the end of my pro-meat eating arguement... But I shall withdraw for now for fear of being long winded. Thank you for listening to what I have to say so far. And on a sidenote, I myself have slaughtered a pig while on vacation in puerto Rico, so none of you can dare say I don't know anything (and I assure you, it was a quick death for the animal)
And once more, I re-iterate, I do NOT condone cruelty to animals
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:14 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:29 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:36 am
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Ilassa Ascher most animal testing isnt about medicines OR cosmetics its about sticking needles into animals just to see how they tick
Actually that is quite untrue We already know how animals tick due to a process called dissection. Plus I'm in a psychology and a chemistry class, and its been found that rats are actually around 90% of genetic similarity to humans believe it or not, and of course apes and primates being 98% genetically similar. Thus When a medicine is being tested it is presumed to have the same effect on a test animal as it would on a human, and animals are used as a first measure that way should there be a problem with the drug, only a lab rat will be effected rather than a human. And you have to consider that medicinal testing comes in stages, right after a drug has been deemed safe for animal use the next stage is HUMAN testing. Need our scientists stick needles in humans to learn how they tick? no Because Da Vinci found that out for us when he began to perform illegal autopsies.
Scientists already know exactly how animals tick, and it is the exact same reasons humans live too. A beating heart. Lungs to take in oxygen, liver for blood cleaning, a digestive and waste system, kidneys, spine, CNS, DNA, RNA, Gabba, dopamine, various Neurotransmitters, are ALL present in animals as they are in a human.
*takes a bow* Thank you
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