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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:07 am
Why must people see it as a 'bad/immoral' thing? Personally i see nothing wrong with it. Its always censored on tv and people talk quietly about it. I mean when you really think about it, theres nothing wrong with it at all. In my opinion i think people should be introduced to it at a younger age and shouldnt be taught to keep quiet about it. Some people wind up supressing it and when it actually does come up in real life they get nervous or feel ashamed or something like that. Thoughts? Opinions? Input?  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:08 am
Well, I would have to say, speaking from the old lady in the guild standpoint, lol that there is nothing wrong with sharing yourself with someone else that you truly and deeply love and care about. It can be a great expression of how you feel and show the love that has grown from your heart in a physical form of closely entwining with one another. That is about as far as my agreeing will go.

I don't believe sex to be a "wrong" or bad thing since it is a pefectly natural thing, however I don't think children should be exposed to it too early in life. TV mearly eludes to what it entails with either soft romantic slow segways into faded obscurity (usually) or a frantic frenzy with euphamisims carefully placed. This is so that the older audience knows what is happening in a scene without destroying the innocence and naivity of the children who might be watching. Children don't need to know the graphic details of exactly what adults do in their spare time, and in all honesty speaking from experience of the cable company screwing up and acidently giving us ALL the channels when I was around 12 it can actually be a very scary and mildly scarring experience for a child to stumble across something like porn at a young age.

I do feel that children should be able to have an open line of communication, espeically around adolecense with their parents to talk about it seriously and to be able to ask serious questions and get serious answers without any accusations or repercussions. My mom and I had a very open relationship, and she would talk with me about just about anything I asked her. If I had the gumption to ask her about something even if my face was burning red and I was super embaressed about it, she would sit down and talk with me about it.

As for introduced at a younger age...Why? I was taught about the human reporductive cycle when I was young, school took me on a feild trip when I was in 5th grade, and then there is always more detail in high school health class, even though really the parents should take it upon themselves to teach their children about sex and not leave it to the public school systems to educate them about reporduction. -_-* I know my parents talked to me about it and answered questions I had, but I had a friend who was literally educated by the schools.

Another point I want to make while on the subject is that there are already too many teenagers who get pregnant and have children before they are ready emotionally to do so. Twelve and thirteen year olds having babies isn't exactly a good thing, so I don't think we really need to be teaching people at a younger age, but perhaps rather be teaching children the right way... and to make sure that they have feelings of self worth so that they don't have sexual reations simply to fill a void they feel.

In the not so distant past there really wasn't a time to be a teenager. You were either a child, or you were an adult with adult responsibilities. There was no time of being in between the two, and perhaps that is where some of the ambiguity comes from really. Since there is no clear and distinct line between the two, it's harder for some people to figure out when they are really ready for such things.

All I can really say on that is to go slow and not rush things. Don't push to go beyond the point you are ready for, and when you do find yourself ready, do not forget to use some form of protection, because even if you love someone beyond all measure and feel like they will indeed be the only person you will ever love and be with, there is always the chance that that dream will fade and wither and you will find yourself in the throws of regret if something should go wrong.

Overall in summery I think it's good that it is censored on television, I think parents should openly discuss it with their children, I think it's a natural thing, I don't think children need to learn about it any earlier than they already do, and don't rush things.  

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:08 pm
Well you brought up some good points but i disagree. You see i was brought up the 'normal' way. I know that theres nothing wrong with it and that people shouldn't be ashamed or anything yet whenever i think or talk about it , it seems 'wrong'. And this is probably going to cause problems for me in the future as well. The reason i think it shouldn't be talked about quietly and such is to prevent problems like this. I do think that it should be introduced at a younger age because in my opinion the sooner you learn of something the easier it is to accept. I do agree on not rushing things as well but that is something that would happen anyways. Regardless of whether or not your supposed to.  
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:55 pm
My parents were open and honest about sex with me when I was a kid. If I had a question about it, it got answered.

That's all parents have to do.
 

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:13 am
spooky_sez
My parents were open and honest about sex with me when I was a kid. If I had a question about it, it got answered.

That's all parents have to do.


You are very right, that is all parents really have to do, but sadly a lot of parents get so flustered by the idea of talking with their children about sex that they end up making up convoluted things in order to attempt to perserve the innocence of their children.  
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:43 pm
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My parents were open and honest about sex with me when I was a kid. If I had a question about it, it got answered.

That's all parents have to do.


You are very right, that is all parents really have to do, but sadly a lot of parents get so flustered by the idea of talking with their children about sex that they end up making up convoluted things in order to attempt to perserve the innocence of their children.


I know, it's a shame. Especially in this day and age. Oh well, let them screw their kids up.  

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:54 pm
Personally I like sex. I don't think theres anything wrong with it as long as your smart about it. And I feel sorry for those not having enough sex.  
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:27 pm
Actually, I think society is more open towards sex this century than the last.
I mean, just the other day some girls who sit behind me in class where having a very open discussion on it.
 

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:06 pm
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Actually, I think society is more open towards sex this century than the last.
I mean, just the other day some girls who sit behind me in class where having a very open discussion on it.


I think you are right, our society now is much more talkative about it then back even say 100 years ago. Around the time of the victorian era it was exceedly taboo to talk about to the point of being rediculous. I mean seeing ankle was considered sexual, and they put those little frills on the furniture because they didn't want men to see leg in any form and get ideas. -_-*

It's a good thing that people talk about sex in a heathy way now instead of having people surpress their every urge to the point of lunacy. Most of the reason sex became such a hush hush subject is because of the christian view on sex as something to be done only in marriage and only as a form of procreation. -_-* Thankfully woman's liberation and the advent of the birth control pill and condom have made great strides in changing things. Some christian purists still have skewed views on sex, but overall society has become much less closed minded about the topic.  
PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:38 am
I guess your right about society having an increased tolerance. But i still think it could use some improvement. I wonder what its going to be like in the next hundred years xd lol.  

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:24 pm
I think it's wierd that they publisize it as dirty, when it is more passionate. Now, tha's not to say you should go have sex with the fird guy/girl who you consider to be hot. Sex should be done only when you're in love. It that's all it was used for, it would be truely innocent and not at all sluty. But people just can't think with there heads anymore.  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:51 pm
Tenebrion Valefor
Why must people see it as a 'bad/immoral' thing? Personally i see nothing wrong with it. Its always censored on tv and people talk quietly about it. I mean when you really think about it, theres nothing wrong with it at all. In my opinion i think people should be introduced to it at a younger age and shouldnt be taught to keep quiet about it. Some people wind up supressing it and when it actually does come up in real life they get nervous or feel ashamed or something like that. Thoughts? Opinions? Input?


Society has a tendency to set "norms" and the like. That is why it is considered to be rude to talk about sex in public. Which I find to be stupid. I know many people who talk about sex regards of the fact that some people consider it to be private or immoral to talk of such a topic in public.

I agree, there is nothing wrong with talking about it or expressing your thoughts on it. I mean it's one of the best ways to even communicate with a lover/partner and hell it's also a way to find the same tastes (if you will) with someone else you are possibly dating. It is nothing to hide or be ashamed about at all.
 

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:08 am
lurichan
TheVampireLirel
Actually, I think society is more open towards sex this century than the last.
I mean, just the other day some girls who sit behind me in class where having a very open discussion on it.


I think you are right, our society now is much more talkative about it then back even say 100 years ago. Around the time of the victorian era it was exceedly taboo to talk about to the point of being rediculous. I mean seeing ankle was considered sexual, and they put those little frills on the furniture because they didn't want men to see leg in any form and get ideas. -_-*

It's a good thing that people talk about sex in a heathy way now instead of having people surpress their every urge to the point of lunacy. Most of the reason sex became such a hush hush subject is because of the christian view on sex as something to be done only in marriage and only as a form of procreation. -_-* Thankfully woman's liberation and the advent of the birth control pill and condom have made great strides in changing things. Some christian purists still have skewed views on sex, but overall society has become much less closed minded about the topic.


Of course, times before the Victorian were often more open about sex. It's one of the things that some cultures have embraced, and other cultures have shunned.  
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:50 am
Mew Kisshus Tears
I think it's wierd that they publisize it as dirty, when it is more passionate. Now, tha's not to say you should go have sex with the fird guy/girl who you consider to be hot. Sex should be done only when you're in love. It that's all it was used for, it would be truely innocent and not at all sluty. But people just can't think with there heads anymore.


I tend to be of the point of view that theyre simply thinking wit hthe wrong head.

Seriously though I strongly feel that sex is somethign that should only be taken part in wit hthe person you are going to spend the rest of your life with. I strongly beleive that whe nyou have sex with somebody for the briefest of moments you are one person and have a connection forged between the two of you. I personally dont want all these connections ot tons of different people later on in life.  

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:22 pm
Mew Kisshus Tears
I think it's wierd that they publisize it as dirty, when it is more passionate. Now, tha's not to say you should go have sex with the fird guy/girl who you consider to be hot. Sex should be done only when you're in love. It that's all it was used for, it would be truely innocent and not at all sluty. But people just can't think with there heads anymore.


I don't see why sex should just be with someone you love.
I'm not in love with anyone, I'm single, that doesn't mean that when I've slept with guys I'm not going out with I've helped tarnish the views of sex by society.
 
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