Dianic Witchcraft?

[Alice Morbid]

It was mentioned here on the forums and I wanted to look into it. However, many things I find that look legit have been wrong ^^: I have been doing a bit of reading on it though.
I was wondering: 1.Is it oathbound? 2. Does anybody have really good links to it? and 3.Is it Dianic "witchcraft" or "wicca"? Sure they could mean close to the same things, but small differences sometimes offend people ^^;  

[Gho the Girl]

I believe it's "Witchcraft." Wicca refers to a specific lineaged and oathbound fertility cult.  

[Lance Kibagari]

Musical_Vampire_Socks

Gho the Girl

I believe it's "Witchcraft." Wicca refers to a specific lineaged and oathbound fertility cult.

Just to say I don't agree that Wicca is a fertility cult but that is just me...

I'm sorry you disagree, but that is indeed what it is.

CuAnnan

Wicca is a(n)


* Orthopraxic
* mystery tradition
* gender polarised initiatory
* priestess of specific Gods
* oathbound
* witchcult

 

[buttercup027]

I think it's "witchcraft".  

[Lance Kibagari]

Musical_Vampire_Socks

I'm just saying that fertility cult suggests that sex is required for one if not all of the initiator/dedication levels which is not true for all Wiccan covens.

If it's a true Wiccan coven, it is.

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I consider Wiccan covens that require intercourse for initiation/dedication wrong

Well, then you consider Wicca wrong, because to my knowledge the third degree initiaion requires intercourse.

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and I know several covens were it is not required.

These are not Wiccan. Wicca is ORTHOPRAXIC. One must PRACTICE it properly; beliefs are secondary at best.

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I just don't want wicca stereotyped.

Nor do the actual Wiccans on Gaia, few as they may be.

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I don't know for sure if the founder of wicca was a good person or bad person

What bearing does this have on his religion?

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I don't think people should label wicca as a bad thing

I don't think people should attach misconceptions to Wicca based on Silver Ravenwolf and company. Guess what? They still do anyway.

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just because what kind of person they consider its founder and their for label the people that follow that path as either all bad or even all good.

What? This makes no bloody sense.

Wicca's initiatory rite requiring sexual contact has nothing to do with how people see Gerald Gardner. Sorry, but that's the way it is. If you want to continue arguing about this, I suggest you go read THIS first:

Wiccan FAQ - AKA Triste Gonna Give It To Ya  

[kage no neko]

I've heard it called Dianic Wicca, though it's been determined that it's not really Wicca since they don't follow the basics of Wicca.



Musical_Vampire_Socks: Wicca requires for the 1st degree kissing of the genitals, and intercourse for the 3rd degree. And I don't really see what Gardner being a good or bad person has to do with anything, unless you're implying that he's bad because he requires sexual actions in his religion?  

[Violet Song jat Shariff]

Musical_Vampire_Socks

I'm just saying that fertility cult suggests that sex is required for one if not all of the initiator/dedication levels which is not true for all Wiccan covens.

Intercourse is only a requirement for third degree initiation. First and second involve sexual elements for sure.
And yes, ALL Wiccan covens that can properly claim the title use the same core to their initiation rites.

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I consider Wiccan covens that require intercourse for initiation/dedication wrong and I know several covens were it is not required. I just don't want wicca stereotyped.

That's nice, but what you consider doesn't actually affect what Wicca is and does.
If it's not your bag, no one is forcing you to be Wiccan.
How is it stereotyping Wicca when that's what it really is?
"Coven" doesn't refer only to Wiccan groups. It is also used by groups of witches and ENPs. So perhaps the covens you are aware of are Eclectic Neo-pagan covens rather than Wiccan covens?

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I don't know for sure if the founder of wicca was a good person or bad person because I was not their but I know several wiccans and they are good people

As do I.
There are also some shitty ones out there.
It's kind of like any other faith.

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I don't think people should label wicca as a bad thing just because what kind of person they consider its founder

I'm sorry, I don't recall anyone saying that Wicca was bad confused
Are you equating acts of a sexual nature with bad?

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And even if the founder of wicca was considered world wide a bad person doesn't mean that everything that he did was bad just like if he was consider world wide a good person doesn't mean everything he did was good either. I think that their is some good and bad in everyone even if its deep inside because I believe in balance but I also believe that their is a gray area which is where I seem to be finding myself right now......

I have no idea how this relates to the topic it hand.  

[Alice Morbid]

kage no neko

I've heard it called Dianic Wicca, though it's been determined that it's not really Wicca since they don't follow the basics of Wicca.



Musical_Vampire_Socks: Wicca requires for the 1st degree kissing of the genitals, and intercourse for the 3rd degree. And I don't really see what Gardner being a good or bad person has to do with anything, unless you're implying that he's bad because he requires sexual actions in his religion?

Thank you ^^ But.. does anybody here know if it's oathbound? I haven't read anything yet to say that it is.. but, I read a bit on wicca too before I was told that it is oathbound.  

[Lance Kibagari]

Succubus Sovereign

Thank you ^^ But.. does anybody here know if it's oathbound? I haven't read anything yet to say that it is.. but, I read a bit on wicca too before I was told that it is oathbound.

Much of Wicca is oathbound, but outer court material is not.  

[Alice Morbid]

Lance Kisgyr

Succubus Sovereign

Thank you ^^ But.. does anybody here know if it's oathbound? I haven't read anything yet to say that it is.. but, I read a bit on wicca too before I was told that it is oathbound.

Much of Wicca is oathbound, but outer court material is not.

thanks ^-^  

[Alice Morbid]

Gho the Girl

I believe it's "Witchcraft." Wicca refers to a specific lineaged and oathbound fertility cult.

thank you ^^  

[saint dreya]

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