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For-Chan Cookie
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:41 pm
I'm sure that you've noticed that some yaoi fans just don't like others. They complain about squeeing fangirls and just get bitchy.

* Do you think it's a girl thing? Does gender make a difference?

* Is it really fair to lay the smackdown on your fellow fans?

* Do you like your fellow fans? If no, what are the things that other fans do that get on your nerves the most?

* What do you think could happen to make fans get along better?  
PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:18 pm
Now, there's a loaded question.

What kind of yaoi fans are we talking here?  

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:54 pm
* Do you think it's a girl thing? Does gender make a difference? Gender doesn't matter. However, I've noticed that girls tend to be more elitist than guys.

* Is it really fair to lay the smackdown on your fellow fans? What can be viewed as a "smackdown" may not always be a smackdown. Sometimes people are trying to defend themselves with a cold, "as-a-matter-of-fact" attitude and it gets viewed as flaming or picking a fight. I've had so many people get angry at me because I told them a fact in response to their opinion, an opinion they were treating as a fact. There's a reason I write "...and here comes the fire...", I know I just pissed someone out there off. So really, if you're just trying to straighten the facts out for someone who seems a bit ignorant to the situation, there's nothing wrong with that. As for just bitching someone out for saying a personal opinion as an opinion, no--totally not cool.

* Do you like your fellow fans? If no, what are the things that other fans do that get on your nerves the most? This is actually a difficult question for me...I don't dislike the majority of them, but there are many that downright wish would fall off the face of gaia.com. Making very rude and elitist comments or even threads is annoying. Just s**t like "Naruto/Sasuke way hotter than Hiro/Duo" and one recently that came up in a different Guild (I think question ) "People who say yaoi is gay porn, don't know crud!" That last one was a killer because so many factual arguments were made (*gloat* mine was the best 3nodding ) that the author of the thread looked like an a** who was ashamed of her own hobby. And outright saying so-n-so/so-n-so is better than another pairing hands down without even being like "at least I think so" is annoying. It's cool to have threads like "I like dude/dude! Who's ur fave?" or "dude1/dude2 VS dude3/dude4". This are fun and tend to allow for a longer lasting thread. The heated battles may last a few months but will eventually get shut down by a mod who's tired of the bullshit. I remember posting on "this or that" threads made in fricken 2001 because I liked the topic and someone awakened it.


* What do you think could happen to make fans get along better? I think if people were alittle more open to personal preferences, opinions and willing to learn new things that may even contradict what they have thought from the beginning (i.e. I learned less than a season ago that yaoi is not the same in the US as in Japan and what "bara" was as opposed to yaoi), then things would move smoothly....But then again, a chaotic atmosphere ran by fire, hate, the dark-side and cookies is what makes the internet so fun rofl  
PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:43 pm
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I'm sure that you've noticed that some yaoi fans just don't like others. They complain about squeeing fangirls and just get bitchy.

      Yeah, I've seen this before. :/ My personal view on not liking other fans just because they're too "squee-y" is this: If they want to squee, let them squee. If it annoys you, then ignore it and move on. If they want to express their fangirly joy through caps locks and an excessive use of the 1 button, then let them. Express your like how you want to, and let others express how they want to.

For-Chan Cookie
* Do you think it's a girl thing? Does gender make a difference?

      I don't think so. Though, the girls are most definitely more vocal than the boys in the yaoi world. >.>; Gender really shouldn't matter, though.

For-Chan Cookie
* Is it really fair to lay the smackdown on your fellow fans?

      This question is a bit tough to answer. I think Girlie Hero pretty much covered my view on this. If you're gonna try to pick a fight with someone over a personal preference of theirs, that's a no-no. But if there's someone out there being arrogant and pushing their opinions onto others who don't disagree, then flaming them for it or something, they just need to be set straight.

For-Chan Cookie

* Do you like your fellow fans? If no, what are the things that other fans do that get on your nerves the most?

      Why, yes! I do like fellow fans. Though, I have seen people fight over pairing preferences before, which I find pretty stupid. I don't mean little things like Pairing vs. Pairing, I mean seeing Person A say they don't like Person B's pairing, and then starting a fight over it. My BFF and I have pairing differences for many thing, but we just ignore it and move on. :/ It's nothing to fight over.

For-Chan Cookie
* What do you think could happen to make fans get along better?

      Just having people accept each other's preferences? Not arguing over things like "squeeing" or pairings.
 

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:13 pm
Step by step, heart to heart, left, right, left, we all fall down…

True, the females tend to be more vocal about it. Though, at Oni-con, there were a couple of gay dudes who were chasing my yaoi partner and I around wanting us to make out for pictures and videos.

I don't really mind squee-ers, as long as it's in moderation. Once in a while, if you're at a con, then I feel fine squeeing over a Light/L cosplay couple. However, when every other phrase out of your mouth is 'GOD that's so hot' or 'OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG,' then I get a tad irritated.

Honestly, I don't think it's ever right to 'lay the smackdown' on fellow fans. Your way of expressing your appreciation of boy love isn't any more righteous than someone else's. Maybe you like to read it in your room quietly and enjoy a cup of coffee, your other addiction. Yeah, that one was specifically an example of me. Shut up. But maybe someone else likes wearing shirts with their favorite pairings on them and is more exuberant about their love for it. So what? That's how they do it, and this is how you do it. Please excuse the second person narrative.

Cheyah, I love my fellow fans. We're all pretty much awesome, and we have this huge thing in common that we can click over. I love meeting yaoi fans. In fact, in Borders the other week, my friend and I met a girl with a yaoi shirt on in the manga section and we had a nice chat for a few hours till the store kicked us out for closing time. In general, the yaoi crowd is more accepting of who you are. I feel much more comfortable being myself around people whom I share a common interest with.

For fans to get along better... Hm... Well, some need to get over themselves. Your pairing is not better nor is it more important than another pairing. The fact that you're too embarrassed to speak the word 'yaoi' in public doesn't mean you have to snap at people who aren't. Just general advice in life: Grow a pair and get over it. Think about it, we're all yaoi lovers. We're kin. Why must some pit themselves against someone else because they don't do things exactly as they do?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:02 am
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* Do you think it's a girl thing? Does gender make a difference?


Well... I think sometimes, yeah, it does. Girls get pretty bitchy. Boys usually express themselves physically, while girls mostly use words, and sometimes it gets a little out of hand.

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Is it really fair to lay the smackdown on your fellow fans?


I wouldn't go as far as a "smackdown" but sometimes it just goes a bit out of hand, so I think if you feel really offended/annoyed or feel ashamed on their behalf, you should always speak your mind. Some fans can get insaaane, and you need to tell them when they've gone too far.

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Do you like your fellow fans? If no, what are the things that other fans do that get on your nerves the most?


I like most fellow fans. Most yaoi fans I've met are very well-behaved and nice, and aren't annoying weeaboos like people say yaoi fans are. Some, though, drive me nuts - especially the really stereotypical kind. A lot of anime fans who dislike yaoi feel that way because of obnoxious fangirls, and it's a bit embarassing to have people act like the "yaoi stereotype" you're trying to get rid of. It just gives us a bad name.

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* What do you think could happen to make fans get along better?


I think everyone needs to be nicer to each other. If you run in to an annoying fellow fan, you should tell them to mind their manners in a nice way. Likewise, you should keep in mind that being obnoxious and annoying is generally frowned upon. I think it's important to erase the stereotype for good, so that people may understand that we're all not just mindless perverts who sexually harass cosplayers.  

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:05 pm
I hate to sound sexist, but a good amount of the female fans annoy me.
The guys do too when they are total weeaboos, but no nearly as much as the girls.
 
PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:00 am
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:18 pm
I dont mind the squeeing fans, to be honest.
It's the bitchy ones I do however have a problem with.
It's better to see fans having fun and squeeing, than to have fans start bitching at each other.

Still, overall, there needs to be a balance.
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:09 pm
Honestly, while someone liking yaoi (especially if they also like my fandoms/pairings) is a check in the positive column for a person, whether I like someone has nothing to do with that. I judge based on what kind of person someone is and how easily I can talk to him/her.  

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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:09 pm
Haha of course i have friends that like Yaoi they kinda variate though.^^  
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 6:05 pm
Girls and guys like it, but female fans are greater in number. Honestly other ppl don't bother me unless they want to be total a's about something. Sometimes I luv my yaoi friends and other times they annoy me. I guess it also depends on my mood. sweatdrop  

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:04 am
i have friends of yaoi who are both genders  
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 4:59 pm
For-Chan Cookie
* Do you think it's a girl thing? Does gender make a difference?

I think it mostly depends on your sexuality. If you don't like guys, chances are you won't be turned on by guy-on-guy. I will note that there are exceptions, though. But yeah, you like what you like, no matter what your gender or gender preferences are.
Bitchiness in the fandom... That can span either sex as well.

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* Is it really fair to lay the smackdown on your fellow fans?

I think it's really only fair to get on someone's case if they're attacking other people.

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* Do you like your fellow fans? If no, what are the things that other fans do that get on your nerves the most?

In general, this would be a yes. However, closed-minded and/or overly obsessive fans bug the living daylights out of me. I think that applies to life in general, and not just the yaoi fandom, however.

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* What do you think could happen to make fans get along better?

If we could stop fighting and be friends.  

EvFaerAshlynn


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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:33 pm
*sigh*
Well, It'd be nice if everytime I go to the yaoi booth at anime conventions there weren't raging fangirls running around screaming, chanting, and somtimes slapping people.
But hey, what can ya do~? ;o

I have to admit though; they make anime movies x5 funnier than they're supposed to be when 2 characters of a yaoi slash pairing show up! x3
 
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