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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:55 pm
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:26 pm
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:58 pm
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:47 pm
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:08 pm
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There's already a thread for this in the debating subforum, but I wanted to address a couple of things posted here.
heavans_angel_13 I honestly am against abortion.... I think you should have to deal with what you did I understand the idea that you shouldn't abort because it's killing the fetus. I do not, however, understand the idea that you must keep the pregnancy because you had sex, especially since abortion is a way of "dealing with the consequences of your actions".
heavans_angel_13 Abortion should only be okay if you are Rapped or see problems with ur fetus! I have no problems with fetal health, but I think the mother's life and health should be acceptable reasons, as well.
As for rape, there's no difference between a fetus created by rape and a fetus created by consensual sex, so why can I abort one and not the other? Also, how do we determine whether or not it's a rape fetus
heavans_angel_13 So if you go to jail for murder shouldn't you go to jail for abortion to??? No, they just need prayers.
Seriously though, that question - what should happen to a woman who has an abortion - is extremely difficult for pro-lifers to answer for some reason. You get kudos just for suggesting a punishment.
For anyone else who's pro-life: If abortion was made illegal, what should the punishment be for a woman who has an illegal abortion, and why should this be the punishment?
Cuore Rotto I don't feel that women should be allowed to get multiple abortions, but I feel that mistakes happen and women should not be penalized for this.
What if you end up being unlucky twice? Or if you don't know how to properly use a condom/birth control and end up pregnant multiple times because of that?
Cuore Rotto Also, having legal abortion is far safer than the illegal alternatives if it is outlawed.
This argument doesn't hold water if you were to replace 'abortion' with another crime. I have never met a person that would defend the idea of making murder legal on the basis that it will be safer than an illegal murder.
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:48 am
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:50 am
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:41 pm
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It depends of the case. I'm 100% pro abortion in this cases:
_either the mother or the child are in serious risk _birth defects (not Down Syndrome or Autism, but more serious things, like missed parts, spine bifida, etc) _incest _STDs (yes, babies get their moms STDs as well) _ectopic pregnancies (out of the uterus)
In these cases, maybe (it all depends of the person):
_one night stands (if is the first time, ok) _second time abortion (if is because a birth defect, etc.) _teenage girls why teenage girls are in the maybe section? because it depends of the maturity of the teenage parents. I had friends back in HS who were better mothers (arrived a bit later because they were feeding their kids, who milked themselves at lunch hour, who took their kids to school on days we didn't had too much classes, that after school had one or two jobs while their boyfriends or families took care of the baby) than many thirty-something women who work with my mother (she had a co-worker who tortured her kids with an iron). Totally against abortion:
_if is used as a "reset" button constantly (done several times without thinking about other options, like adoption, contraceptives, etc.)
Since we all make mistakes, a one time abortion is ok (the next time, birth control), but a second, third, forth (and so on...) abortion? That's being irresponsible. Our bodies are not a video game console, and everytime something we don't want happens, we can't go around pressing the reset button. We make mistakes, and from those mistakes, we learn something. And abortion should be used like that; we abort an embryo once, so the next time, we use birth control.
_Rape? We denounce the a-hole who did that. Not many women wouldn't want to abort a kid product of a rape (this is what they say: is not my fault, but neither the baby's fault, and that's why I'm having it. It might been an unwanted pregnancy, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to give this kid a good life crying ). But I don't know what would I do in this situation. I think I rather give a baby from an unwanted pregnancy into adoption.
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:04 pm
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:30 pm
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:34 pm
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:12 pm
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:44 pm
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:53 pm
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:05 am
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