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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:25 pm
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:03 pm
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:03 pm
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:06 pm
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Ixor-san zz1000zz Ixor-san If I'm understanding correctly, from the moment of conception, that fetus has human DNA. Would that not make it human? A toe has human DNA. A tumor has human DNA. A drop of blood as human DNA. In other words, DNA is insufficient as a determinant. Point taken.
So I suppose the question is what makes a human a human?
The only honest answer to that is, "Dunno." While many traits can be highlighted as "human traits," there is no definition that truly explains what being a human entails.
Well, there are, but none of them are useful. For example, "If it has a soul, it is human" may be true, but it just avoids the question. How do you know it has a soul?
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:14 pm
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Ixor-san zz1000zz Ixor-san If I'm understanding correctly, from the moment of conception, that fetus has human DNA. Would that not make it human? A toe has human DNA. A tumor has human DNA. A drop of blood as human DNA. In other words, DNA is insufficient as a determinant. Point taken.
So I suppose the question is what makes a human a human? A human is able to worship God and take form after Him.
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:18 pm
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zz1000zz Ixor-san zz1000zz Ixor-san If I'm understanding correctly, from the moment of conception, that fetus has human DNA. Would that not make it human? A toe has human DNA. A tumor has human DNA. A drop of blood as human DNA. In other words, DNA is insufficient as a determinant. Point taken.
So I suppose the question is what makes a human a human?The only honest answer to that is, "Dunno." While many traits can be highlighted as "human traits," there is no definition that truly explains what being a human entails. Well, there are, but none of them are useful. For example, "If it has a soul, it is human" may be true, but it just avoids the question. How do you know it has a soul? Yeah. So I guess it's kinda shaky ground. It really could be a sin. How do we know?
I pretty much hold to the view that it is. I see a fetus as a human life. I really can't explain why, it's just something in me that just feels it's true. Hardly scientific, but not everything is or has to be. Or neccesarily should be.
Though, I do agree with freelance, that it really is highly personal decision and who are any of us to try and make a person's choice for them?
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:18 pm
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:34 pm
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Autie Lady A human is able to worship God and take form after Him.
I disagree. I do not think an infant is capable of worshipping God, but I do consider an infant to be a human.
Ixor-san Yeah. So I guess it's kinda shaky ground. It really could be a sin. How do we know?
We know because the Bible say so, or does not say so. It is no different than anything else. If the Bible does not say it is a sin, how could we decide it is a sin?
Ixor-san Though, I do agree with freelance, that it really is highly personal decision and who are any of us to try and make a person's choice for them?
You cannot say it is a sin, but then say you will not interfere in other people's personal choices. It is the same as with something like homosexuality. While you may do anything to directly interfere with another person's life, simply by calling it a sin you interfere. By not disagreeing when other people call it a sin, you interfere.
Consider how many people did not receive abortions because Republican presidents refused to allow funding to groups providing them.
saki_hanajima7 you knit me together in my mother's womb.
This in no way indicates a fetus has a soul.
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