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RevlinHeartsblood

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:37 pm


Im painting a Space Marine
one of the units in the veteran squad, you'll probably recognize it when you see the picture

this one
i know the picture is bad quality, but the camera wouldnt focus on it, so i gave up, took a quick picture, and decided i would use it just for reference

the helmet, as you can see, is gold
but it looks like crap, to say the least

i did a base-coat of the yellow foundation paint (im sorry, its name seems to elude me, something darksun i think) then painted over it with gold. and well, it looks horrible, i dont know how to put it =/
and ideas on how i might be able to fix it, paint it right, etc. ill buy a new helmet if i absolutely have to, yay ebay lol

thanks for any help in advance smile
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:52 pm


Ever tried macro and stay like, 20-30 cm (or 15-20") away from it while taking the pictures? Does wonders to me. ;D

When you're about to paint gold, start with a dark basecoat of brown on the area you want gold, I think I used bronzed flesh, I'll check when I get home.

After painting it brown I just simply painted it gold, and washed with both badab black and devlan mud, highlighting with gold and mithrill silver on the most pointy edges or from where I want the light effect to come from.


But why buy a helmet when you can get some break fluid and let him be in there for about 24 hours and them brush it off with a toothbrush.

Shinobi_8745


RevlinHeartsblood

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:32 am


lol, i was on macro
i was trying to get a helmet only shot (shoulda known better, its impossible)

i think i understand what you mean.
I dont have badab black OR delvan mud.
and when you say highlight with gold and mithril silver, do you mean mix it? 1:1? or like, do it separately?

as for the break fluid, i never knew that was possible.
i kinda gave up on trying to strip paint of models when my roommates commander was primed outside whilst it was snowing, and well, it looked REALLY bad. the snow made all the paint separate and, man, it was ugly.
SOOO, i suggested letting it soak in some paint stripper i had..
baaaaad idea. plastic swelled and became so soft that if you touched it it would leave your fingerprint.
so, he got pissed and i had to give him what i had left of my commander
he ended up only taking the claws and a couple nick-knacks (nick-knacks?)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:14 am


You should get some of those washes, it's seriously one of the best things GW ever have produced, it makes life so simple! I've seen minis basecoated in white and then covered with only washes and it turned out pretty well and is a quick way for a pure tabletop army.


I'll take this step-wise.

Step 1: Undercoat the area with a darker brown of your preferance

Step 2: Paint the area gold.

Step 3: Wash it with badab black.

Step 4: Once dry, wash with devlan mud.

Step 5: Once dry, paint gold on the area again, leaving some areas of course for some deepened effects (like hollowed areas etc).

Step 6: Small thin lines of mithrill silver around the most pointy edges or the edges from where you want the light source to come from.

If I remembers it I can try to make a tutorial at home, hoping that I have something to paint it on that is.


Break fluid is awesome for paint-stripping, it does not ruin plastic models, and after 24 hours you can even get rid of paint applied to the mini years ago, I dropped a couple of black orcs into a break fluid before christmas which were painted when I started the hobby and I was amazed by the result, almost all the former paint was gone, and there's been about 3-4 layers of paint and 2-3 layers of basecoat on them.

Break fluid is something that most people have at home or it can be purchased for a not so high price I think, it does the work anyhow, so it's worth getting some.

Shinobi_8745


RevlinHeartsblood

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:35 am


lol, i did pick up one of the washes, a black one, not sure why, havent used it since. as for picking up more washes ill see what i can do, short on money at the moment.

but thanks a bunch for the help, i think ill see if i can get my dad to bring some break fluid with him next time he comes to visit. until then i think ill try your technique, but without the washes, and see what i can do lol
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:32 am


The black wash could be enough, but it won't give that much of a deep golden feeling to it, but it's good for shading gold anyhow. ;D

Especially good on silver colours too.

Shinobi_8745


RevlinHeartsblood

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:03 am


lol
now that washes are mentioned... i suppose
is it at all possible for you to explain to me how washes are used? lol

or is that another one of those things like drybrushing where someone has to show you?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:48 am


No, you just apply the wash directly to the mini, check out my foundation wash/ink guide in the stickies, could prove usefull to you.

When I use foundation washes I use plenty, not too much so that I drown the whole model, enough to stay in place but yet alot... You'll get the hang of it once you try it out.

Shinobi_8745


RevlinHeartsblood

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:22 am


man
i just sat down and started fudging around with the wash

I WORSHIP YOU

ive never known a something so good
no more countless hours trying to make the right shade of a color.

red->dip->apply->wait->wash->dip->apply vigorously->enjoy
blaugh blaugh blaugh


ill show my scouts asap
theyre looking really good, better than anything ive done before O_O lol
ive got them all primed white (easier to paint the marines that way, theyre mostly white) and i just washed the pants with badab black. OMFG SEXY lol.
looks really cool
i cant wait till my sniper scouts i got off ebay get here, im gonna have fun with them. lol

::EDIT:: i reread that, sounds like all my scouts are white. nooooo
theyre almost all red, 2 are done already.
im giving my sgt white pants and i think white shoulderpads, undecided yet, but white pants definitely, looks so good.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:48 pm


Show us some photos of what it looks like now, just try to get some working settings for the camera, and take your time to take the photos, it takes me ages to get pictures I feel like posting due to light and blurr.

Staying a bit away from the mini mostly works for me, and cutting out everything aorund the mini so that I don't get that much space around in the photo.


Blank areas, aka not having random stuff around a model makes the camera most likely to focus on it.

Shinobi_8745


Dragonzealot

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:12 am


For gold for me, I mix Tin Blitz, and Shining Gold. Thats it. It really helps the Gold spread on (for lack of a better term) while retaining its luster.

You would think it would take it away and make it more of a bronze but it doesnt. At least not for me.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:29 am


That sounds a bit too plain if you ask me, models needs depth to look a bit more alive IMO.

Shinobi_8745


RevlinHeartsblood

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:46 pm


LOL
shinobi, for the last time, i know how to take a good photo. lol
i was havin problems with taking JUST the helmet, and gave up and just took a bunch carelessly razz

i think the helmet needs more work first, the wash wasnt spreading nicely on the paint. so i think i may wash it again and see what happens.

as for the scouts, you want me to take a pic of what i have now? i got one complete scout, one thats missing a head and an arm, another that needs its torso glued on, then itll be one stage behind what my second scout is at now (it will just be torso and legs). and a pair of legs just standing there, nothing else has even been started for it lol.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:11 pm


Shinobi_8745
That sounds a bit too plain if you ask me, models needs depth to look a bit more alive IMO.

Well then again the bits I am using my gold for arent really a main thing so that little bit of "dull color" actually helps it come to life when mixed with the more depth stuff.

Dragonzealot


RevlinHeartsblood

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:17 pm


i think i may try your technique DZ
ill try a 70-30 of bitz and gold for an undercoat, then drybrush on the gold
and if i still doesnt look right, ill wash it lol

theres gonna be so many layers of paint on this helmet, lol.
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