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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:44 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:19 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:19 pm
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The problem isn't Children Praying in school. They don't want teachers or faculty to make Children pray in school. That's the real problem.
The reason Children SHOULDN'T prayer in school is, well, it's class time. That's all there is to it. If you can find time to pray when the teacher is not busy, then by all means. But don't put your pen and paper down to do so, please.
I don't understand the Separation of Church and State argument simply because I always thought it was clear cut. No Government instituted religion, no government sponsored religious holidays, Governments will always all religions to be practiced unless their is a contradiction with other civil liberties. I thought this was all very clear cut but both sides seem to think it goes to the favor of the other. The religious ones make wild accusations of their faith being under attack (because it sometimes is thanks to extremists) while the non religious claim the same thing (again, extremists).
Meanwhile, it is in the majority balanced within the center, where it is so easy to look past and right at the other side.
Really, it never was an issue until people started claiming that it was.
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:20 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:21 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:22 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:24 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:51 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:58 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:13 pm
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Paranormal Zombiiie Priestley I don't see seperation of church and state as a problem.
Jesus said, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's".
This was said with reference to taxes. However, by setting it within the framework of Jesus' comments about the current system of things and its passing away, one adds a spiritual dimension to a wise but seemingly flat statement.
What do you mean "identify the problem"? Are you needing to find examples where church infringes upon state and vice versa? Well the problem is pretty much where did we get this idea (No ones said this, but the constitution does not mention this separation.), Where are the boundries? When does it become a problem? stuff like that. I'm no American but I believe the seperation is declared here:
First Amendment to the United States Constitution Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . .
It is based on two principles: secularity of government and exercising religious freedom. That is, government should not be influenced by any religion and government should not impose on a person's religious rights. The former could lead to the latter and vice versa. Ultimately the motive is stable governance.
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:42 pm
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Priestley Paranormal Zombiiie Priestley I don't see seperation of church and state as a problem.
Jesus said, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's".
This was said with reference to taxes. However, by setting it within the framework of Jesus' comments about the current system of things and its passing away, one adds a spiritual dimension to a wise but seemingly flat statement.
What do you mean "identify the problem"? Are you needing to find examples where church infringes upon state and vice versa? Well the problem is pretty much where did we get this idea (No ones said this, but the constitution does not mention this separation.), Where are the boundries? When does it become a problem? stuff like that. I'm no American but I believe the seperation is declared here:First Amendment to the United States Constitution Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . . It is based on two principles: secularity of government and exercising religious freedom. That is, government should not be influenced by any religion and government should not impose on a person's religious rights. The former could lead to the latter and vice versa. Ultimately the motive is stable governance.
Thats not the seperation of church and state, just the establishment of a state religion.
What we are tlaking about is, teachers are not allowed to show favor to one religion. The 10 commandments where forced to be taken out of a courthouse. Things like that.
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:08 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:24 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:30 pm
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