Breeding Questions & Suggestions

[Keantha]

I have been reading it all and I guess I am just a little confused....(not trying to start an arguement!)..So basically what is being said is, if you co-own with someone and the soq in question wins a breeding, you can't co-own with them again? But can you still just outright give them a basket??

I'll use myself as an example...I co-own Haya with Roniel, but I have no rights to him save sig rights. When she and Natty got one of the rl breeding slots they gave me the third basket.

If the new rule is passed would that be not allowed? I think that might be a little harsh to people who might in name co-own a soq but have no real rights to them.

(Again, not trying to start an arguement just trying to understand >.<)  

[endejester]

If you are already represented with two pairs in the breeding raffle in which they win then yes, you would be under said rules prevented from receiving that basket becuase otherwise it would be as though you were represented in that breeding by three pairs.

At least that is how I understand it :3  

[Keantha]

oooh ok, so this is more like saying you can't have say four co-owned in a breeding drawing and get co-owned baskets or given baskets from all of them?  

[endejester]

If someone was trying to put in that many yeah <3

Example <3 I co-own almost all of my soquili <3

So I enter Fauno (Mine co-owned with merange) into a Raffle with Zingella (owned by Skye Starrfyre)

And

Cuter enters

Voltaire (Owned by lilwere and myself) and 'Lady Luck' (owned by Cuter)

Those two are the pairs entered 'in my name' they would be my 2 pair total limit and have been legitimately entered one by myself and one by another)


After that...
If for example Lil entered Sukina (owned by she and I) with another Soquili... I would not be able to receive baskets from that third pair. Becuase a) she has breeding rights and b) I already have two legitimate pairs entered. So, becuase we all entered the -same- raffle it removes the potential of me bing gifted a basket should Sukina win that raffle.

Basicly it keeps me from in a way, even a gifty way, having 3 pairs entered.  

[Roniel REVOLUTION]

I think it would be nice if there were more perks for lifemating other than the occasional lifemates only raffle... maybe that lifemates are allowed one extra breeding or something? As it is, it's almost detrimental to lifemate your soq rather than say... just give blanket breeding position to the other soq without lifemating since if you lifemate and the other owner disappears you're still penalized if you want to unlifemate 'em.  

[Meeki]

My only worry there would be that people would lifemate JUST for that extra breeding. I've already noticed that there's more lifemates popping up when a raffle springs up with a lifemate category so I am pretty sure we'd see a lot more lifemates if they were given an extra breeding.

Personally, I think it's sweet when a couple lifemates, but I don't think it should make them more special. That's a choice people take upon themselves.

I'd rather suggest lifemating categories be removed from the raffle for that reason as personal decisions shouldn't always = reward. It's starts looking like people need a reason to make two pets sticking together worthwhile.  

[Roniel REVOLUTION]

It'd still feel nice to have sorta... an extra something for lifemating. This doesn't really have to do with breeding, but maybe a double lifemates cert or something. That'd be a sweet way to acknoledge it.

I can see what you mean by some people wanting to take advantage of that, though... Maybe something like... you have to have been lifemates for all of you soquili's breedings to get an extra one? That way if someone could just spontaneously lifemate their soq for their last breeding for an extra basket or something...  

[endejester]

Perhaps at least having to have been life mated for X amount of time? And...perhaps so its not instantly dissolved that you must maintain it for X amount of time subsequent?  

[TheMadHatter]

I agree that lifemates shouldn't get anything special. It's just like tacking on an extra name to a Soq and it's a personal choice to lifemate or not. If it was something more than personal choice then i'd agree but it's not.

You shouldn't get perks just because you decide to tack a label onto your soq's.  

[nessy]

I am in total full support of Meeki's idea, and support the argument that it's just enforcing a new rule.

I actually REALLY like the idea of a double cert for Lifemates. That's a nice, harmless little perk. And really, why would you get a double cert just to have a double cert?

Harmless, not going to be very abused.

Granted, you might have to have another certist to handle the workload, but I think it's a cute idea.

NOW.

Can ANYTHING be done for low luck couples? I think it's absolutely flaming ridiculous that we have couples that have been trying for over a year, and have not even had ONE breeding. That is CRAZY.  

[endejester]

I'd suggest increasing the amount of time between breedings but I think I'd be shot.

Honestly though with the number of soq increasing by at least 2 for every breeding its going to be harder and harder for low luck couples to get slots and there will be increasing numbers of them as well.  

[EchoLimaFoxtrot]

endejester

I'd suggest increasing the amount of time between breedings but I think I'd be shot.

Honestly though with the number of soq increasing by at least 2 for every breeding its going to be harder and harder for low luck couples to get slots and there will be increasing numbers of them as well.

I am in complete agreement here ^^; I know I am bad, but if I could change it to 5 months, I probably would. It would never happen wink I remember the hub-bub when it changed to "have to have two months of 'silence' before entering the soquili again".

And while I think lifemating is great, I agree in there not being breeding perks for them. I feel that this is a decision that should not be made with /only/ babies in mind - wether that be RP, between the owners, or otherwise. (wow, I feel like I sound old-fashioned o_O )

As for if there was a timing on how long they've been officially lifemated, not everyone signs up when the owners decided they'd like to lifemate. I don't think that makes a "union" any less important or should even get an advantage in that sense.  

[Silent Spy]

As for lifemating, I feel there should be some form of perk or reward for lifemating, if only because there is a consequence for breaking a lifemating. While I understand the argument that people would be inclined to lifemate simply for breeding perks, I feel that something related to breeding would be most suitable since the consequence for breaking a lifemating is related to breeding.  

[Talaye]

I thought that, originally, the perks for 'life mating' were cut down on because people were just randomly saying "Hee! My pair is life mated. =D" without actually thinking about it just to get put into that extra raffle.

I agree with Meeki. I don't view a life mated couple as being anything different from any other couple. I choose -not- to life mate my couples because I don't view it as a necessary part of saying that they're together, even if it's for the long haul.

*will eventually make it back to her own account*