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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:40 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:18 pm
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Wouldn't that be kinda odd for them though? I mean between the whole strength thing, which could be helpful, but then lack of sunlight, that's bad, and depending on what style of vampire there's other minuses/pluses thrown in. And yes I'll admit I love vampires, not in the creepy way no, but I have read a tone of vamp books, and watched buffy and angel and moonlight kicks a**, and what stories i do right nowdays tend to learn towards vamp/other odd creatures. Course if the rule for sunlight killing them applyed how would that work, they burn up to a pile of ashes and somehow regenerate once the sun sets? Because it would suck to start to heal only to burn again with the sun up.
Now on the whole Were side of things, what if it was the fullmoon and another immortal came across them while they were shifted? Would the other immortal still technically be able to challenge them or would that count as cheating since they couldn't use a sword? Though depending on the style of Were they are stronger and faster, so wouldn't that be cheating on it's own?
Though a were-animal immortal does sound kinda niffty to think about, I say were-animal because a lot of the books a deal with don't have just werewolves, there can be werepanthers too.
I'll stop before you guys start thinking I'm nuts...
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:31 pm
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:37 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:44 am
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XP, course what's really funny is I participate in a table top role-play game where I'm a vampire, the guy that owns the guild plays Gaston for that game as well, as an immortal as well, and there's another immortal, we tend to have a running thing with my character considering them food, amusingly Gaston's taken her up on that....he got something out of it at lest. Oh, yeah that ramble though, past me sharing amusement, was to point out that you have a good point, if a vamp could get their hands on an immortal they'd be an endless blood bank, poor immortal...
As for the whole vamp-werewolf gig I've had talks with people about that before too, what's normally decided is that the two are opposites and tend to overwhelm a persons system, therefore killing them. Depending on the style of vampire, there are some that can't eat, their system can't handle real food, making it so if they become a Were they'd starve in a way. For other types I'm not sure how to counter-act the combo, but how does a body, were or vamp for start, take another change so big and be able to hold together? The only example I've ever seen of it happening was Underworld.
For the whole thing of an immortal not being able to be a vamp or Were cause of being immune of diseases, well I think Gabriel was talking about them catching it before their first death. Of course that brings to question if a pre immortal gets turned into a vampire that kills them, so when they come back would they have to deal with being immortal and a vamp at the same time? Cause that would suck, they wouldn't know what the hells going on.
And do sound really nerdy here, if a pre immortal becomes a Were it would greatly lessen their chance of becoming immortal cause Were's are damned hard to kill, they heal from most things, don't get sick, and most styles it takes silver to really kill them. How many people get killed with anything silver in life? It would take something really big for them to get killed to become an immortal. A vamp I'm not sure about, if they are already dead, if that didn't trigger being an immortal, how does somethings that dead get killed?
I'll admit I read way, way too much, I go through about a book a day when I have books to read, so sorry that I ramble about this stuff but it's an interesting idea.
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:08 pm
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:41 am
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:58 pm
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:26 am
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:35 pm
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:11 pm
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:22 am
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:21 am
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Now why would I run? It's a pretty fun deal...she gets to whet her appetite, and then I get to whet mine. twisted
Scarily enough, in the game we had yesterday, Ghost's character was draining Gaston when the spaceship we found (don't ask, long story) came under attack. As the ship's de facto pilot, Gaston stumbled up to the bridge with just enough blood in him to stay alive and dodge enemy fire. The GM had me doing rolls with a forty five point penalty (skill is 75, so roll 30 or below). Somehow, I managed to successfully make five out of six piloting rolls and got us out of range while only taking minor damage. So a combination of sex and massive blood loss seems to work for Gaston. mrgreen
As for the discussion, I'd suggest something. If we work through the disease and death bits and somehow end up with a Vampire Immortal, sunlight would still reduce them to ashes. Unfortunately, that would also kill them for good, since the head is technically severed in a way...nothing is keeping the head connected anymore, after all.
the Rules don't specify how the head comes off, swords are just easiest. Remember, back in "The Sea Withc," the bad guy fell off the back of a ship and got sucked into the propeller and thus beheaded.
Basically, I'd say a Vampire Immortal would be a tough thing to play out. A werewolf thing is a little bit more feasible, depending on how the writer interprets things. Our GM, for example, runs things in a way that Immortals can catch diseases...they just resurrect like normal when the disease kills them...if an Immortal remains dead long enough, the virus can starve and the player cured. Under those rules, a werebeast can bite an Immortal, and the Immortal catches the lycanthropy and becomes a WereMethos (if you wanna be specific biggrin ). However, if a hunter were to do the whole silver bullet thing, the affected Immortal would of course die until the bullet is removed, allowing the Immortal to resurrect. If he's dead long enough, the lycanthropy could starve and the Immortal in question would be back to normal.
At least,t hat's how I would do it.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:43 pm
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Aww you left out that Gaston accedently put on her clothes when he ran for the bridge XP
But no, for the whole were gig, you have a good point, yesyes, that would be amusing really, poor person, imagine becoming first a were, then and immortal somewhere down the road, then maybe not being a were anymore, gah, might go insane.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:00 pm
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