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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:35 am
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Kirk Space- the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise, her five-year mission to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before.
Picard Space- the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise, its continuing mission to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before.
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Takori T`prini In the original series, Kirk said something before the theme song. Picard said the same thing before The Next Generation, but with some changes. What were the changes? Kirk: "This is the Starship, Enterprise. It's 5-year mission : to explore strange, new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no man has before." And I think the only difference is that Picard didn't say "5-year mission"
Picard also changed the words "...where no man has gone before" to "...where no one has gone before." This was the most distinctive change, and really an unfortunate one. Kirk was quoting word for word the famous words of Zephraim Cochrain, the man who made it all possible.
Picard (or at least the writers) were trying to be more inclusive, implying that "no man" was equivilant to saying, "Men only, no women." This is of course another PC absurdity since "man" has universally been the word to describe humanity, such as "mankind", and Tolkien also described the Human Race as the Race of Men. Star Trek has taught us that there is only one Human Race.
To change Cochraine's grand words, which Kirk and Spock repeat with such admiration, is just plain wrong.
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Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 6:35 pm
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Wind-Whisper Takori T`prini In the original series, Kirk said something before the theme song. Picard said the same thing before The Next Generation, but with some changes. What were the changes? Kirk: "This is the Starship, Enterprise. It's 5-year mission : to explore strange, new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no man has before." And I think the only difference is that Picard didn't say "5-year mission" Picard also changed the words "...where no man has gone before" to "...where no one has gone before." This was the most distinctive change, and really an unfortunate one. Kirk was quoting word for word the famous words of Zephraim Cochrain, the man who made it all possible. Picard (or at least the writers) were trying to be more inclusive, implying that "no man" was equivilant to saying, "Men only, no women." This is of course another PC absurdity since "man" has universally been the word to describe humanity, such as "mankind", and Tolkien also described the Human Race as the Race of Men. Star Trek has taught us that there is only one Human Race. To change Cochraine's grand words, which Kirk and Spock repeat with such admiration, is just plain wrong. Actually, Spock actually said "no one" as well, at the end of the Wrath of Kahn, signifying that the change wasn't really to include women, wrather to include other alien species. Next Gen using "one" instead of "man" symbolizes that the humans are growing as a race, and are making their place in the galaxy-- that they are in league with other species. I don't think it really has to do with gender equality so much as racial euality with other alien beings. But that's just what I got from it.
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