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This is a thought i got after reading dammie-kins "request for a silent moment"

Now this have nothing to do against it, but made me raise a question.

If a person truly can't find any happiness but only sadness in this world,
and runs away from reality by suicide.

Should you hold a even more sad moment of silence for a person who dint wish to have more sadness ?
Would a person who never felt to be happy, wish for others to feel sad as well?

and my last.
Would a person ever commit suicide if he/she knew that just the presence can make others happy?
Or if he/she knew that the loss of him/her would make a even worse mark in several people, compared to the burn in the chest they may have felt them self?

Please share your thoughts and maybe questions.
I don't mind if you feel like going into deep expressions.
Mentally.

I think that it is right to have a moment of silence and honour, but sadness, perhaps, should not be spread.
There is a certain amount of unavoidable pain that friends and family of the victim, and they are victims, must endure, but rather than being saddened, the most help that one can provide to someone, in my experience, who has a feeling of such loss is to offer an ear of shoulder. Do not create more sadness in this, lift the burden from others.

In regards to suicide, I think that it is very important that if someone has such tendencies that you tell them that they would not only be missed, but causing more pain. It may seem cruel for me to say this, but sometimes blame is the only way to convince people out of such a dreadful sacrifice.

Condolences, Dameon.
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That said, friends, you mustn't forget emotion.
What was is no longer, so something else fills the void.
Despite what cannot be avoided, recognize that, as humans, we refuse to recognize this "balance" in times of pain and sorrow.

Although I agree, I feel it important to remind everyone that in such times of great loss, empathy is often preferred over logic.
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If that were true, considering the fact that numerous people kill themselves every day (according to Suicide.org, one suicide per 17 minutes,) the world would've exploded. Seriously, some people probably offed themselves right now, but do I care? No. Do you care? No. Has my life changed because of their deaths? Has yours? No. I don't know these people, I don't know why they killed themselves, and I'm not going to stop and grieve for them or their families; I have more important things to worry about.

Unless a person was like a movie star or the president or something, nothing's going to happen when they kill themselves. Sure, a few family and friends will be sad, but after a while they'll recover from the shock and go about their lives again. The world isn't suddenly going to halt on its axis because a few people decided it was a good idea to off themselves.

It's a fact of life that sometimes people kill themselves. That's their choice, and I think it's selfish to tell them not to because YOU think it's wrong and YOU might just shatter like glass if they go. Life's a pile of s**t. Some make it, some don't.

You can call me names. You can call me heartless and all this s**t, but this is what I believe. The same thing will happen when I go. Nothing will change, and nobody will be concerned.

EDIT: @Mobius: I couldn't understand anything you said. Mind speaking in English next time?

Ah, but I enjoy speaking in riddles, Boxman. It makes things so much more... How would Ryuk put it? Interesting...

Boxman being cruel is the worst quality someone can have an I believe I see a malignant streak in you towards that topic. We are the legion of helpers and if someone is grieving you tell them it doesnt matter?

Its not a moral issue but an act of courtesy!

He helps to Balance pathoses with intellectual objectivism. It is something to be thankful for. Boxman is a boon to the world by being a bane to that which people prefer. There has to be another side to all things, and he is the other side to morality.

Erm...just putting my two cents in since I speak from a bit of experience....

If I were to kill myself, I'd want to cause as much pain as possible for the people that I know. At least for me, a large aspect of suicide is a feeling of lack of appreciation. Also, I suppose that I'd want people to know how I felt, at least to some degree.

If a loved one kills his/herself, then the survivors of that person often feel lost, sad and angry for thinking that they could have prevented it. More or less the same emotions that people feel before they take their life.

So...I guess it offers some kind of closure? *shrug*

EDIT: Also, at least for me, I realize that most of my desire for suicide is completely absurd and irrational, but it's not something you can just get rid of. It's not like I want to think like that. Knowing that I make other people happy doesn't help at all, and the few people that make me stop thinking such things help only in small amounts since they're quickly lost to the other...tendencies.

Er, and just for the record, I'm not a cutter or anything sweatdrop I just think about it more or less all the time. It's like, when I'm sitting and contemplating doing my homework I'll be like "Well, I could just kill myself today...Nah. It's pizza day tomorrow. I'll wait." So it's kinda like that.