|
|
|
|
|
Francine These Chocodiles
|
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:40 am
Burakku_Kitsune Freed the Benevolent Burakku_Kitsune armycat jockamoe Burakku_Kitsune xd What?! I love Victory Viper! It's cool, but that set up is horribly ineffective. "Ineffective or inefficient? Both.stfu no one listens to you anymore. Apparently you did, and apparently you have, since your argument has changed from what it would normally be to nothing more than "stfu". Did I hit your soft spot before, is that it?
Still doesn't change that such a combo is first incredibly unlikely to have, and second you would pour your hand into a play with nothing to make up if it rebounds. Dimensional Prison, GG.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:51 am
Freed the Benevolent Burakku_Kitsune Freed the Benevolent Burakku_Kitsune armycat jockamoe Burakku_Kitsune xd What?! I love Victory Viper! It's cool, but that set up is horribly ineffective. "Ineffective or inefficient? Both.stfu no one listens to you anymore. Apparently you did, and apparently you have, since your argument has changed from what it would normally be to nothing more than "stfu". Did I hit your soft spot before, is that it?
Still doesn't change that such a combo is first incredibly unlikely to have, and second you would pour your hand into a play with nothing to make up if it rebounds. Dimensional Prison, GG."I no longer have to argue with you any more you are infamous for being completely worthless in the deck building area. If you do know what you are talking about you certainly don't show, you just pop in say the deck is worthless and never speak again unless spoken too. I no longer need to argue with you because you rarely have a convincing argument. I have said it before and I say it now, the "Your-combo-sucks-because-this-card-can-screw-it-up" argument is the weakest in yugioh. So what? Anyone can say in a forum that "That's stupid when you do that they will flip this and you will lose" It much more difficult to produce the result in game. I do not deny it could happen, but just because it can does not mean it will. and if you get that combo they only have what they have on the field because no monster can stand up to a 70000 atk head to head. So if they just summoned JD so what you still take 67000 damage. I am not saying this is a perfect strategy or deck build, what I am saying is that if you get it on the field you will still be ahead of your opponent."
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:56 am
Burakku_Kitsune Freed the Benevolent Burakku_Kitsune Freed the Benevolent Burakku_Kitsune "Ineffective or inefficient? Both.stfu no one listens to you anymore. Apparently you did, and apparently you have, since your argument has changed from what it would normally be to nothing more than "stfu". Did I hit your soft spot before, is that it?
Still doesn't change that such a combo is first incredibly unlikely to have, and second you would pour your hand into a play with nothing to make up if it rebounds. Dimensional Prison, GG."I no longer have to argue with you any more you are infamous for being completely worthless in the deck building area. If you do know what you are talking about you certainly don't show, you just pop in say the deck is worthless and never speak again unless spoken too. I no longer need to argue with you because you rarely have a convincing argument. I have said it before and I say it now, the "Your-combo-sucks-because-this-card-can-screw-it-up" argument is the weakest in yugioh. So what? Anyone can say in a forum that "That's stupid when you do that they will flip this and you will lose" It much more difficult to produce the result in game. I do not deny it could happen, but just because it can does not mean it will. and if you get that combo they only have what they have on the field because no monster can stand up to a 70000 atk head to head. So if they just summoned JD so what you still take 67000 damage. I am not saying this is a perfect strategy or deck build, what I am saying is that if you get it on the field you will still be ahead of your opponent." He doesn't know what he's talking about? You're the one bitching about the meta because you consistantly lose to it even when you build a meta deck and can't build it right. You're a sore butthurt f** who's just like most of the cancer in this game, you're the population who attacks the little kids but when a good or sup par player comes up and plays you with a deck you b***h and moan because you lost to something which is obviously better than anything you could remotely think of. You're completely worthless in this thread because you don't even know how to build anything remotely good.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:01 am
"....Are we speaking to me? 0.0"
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:05 am
Burakku_Kitsune "....Are we speaking to me? 0.0" yes i'm speaking to you otherwise I wouldn't have quoted you. I read a few of your posts, you sound and act like nothing more than a butthurt noob. Honestly I joined this guild hoping there were a few good players on gaia. Apparently I looked in the wrong place, most of you are horrible at this game. That's being nice.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:17 am
Boxxy 110 Burakku_Kitsune "....Are we speaking to me? 0.0" yes i'm speaking to you otherwise I wouldn't have quoted you. I read a few of your posts, you sound and act like nothing more than a butthurt noob. Honestly I joined this guild hoping there were a few good players on gaia. Apparently I looked in the wrong place, most of you are horrible at this game. That's being nice. "Ah ok I wasn't sure if you were, or not I'm glad we got that cleared up ^_^ I know this argument is wrong because this is a thread dedicated to this persons deck, not to people fighting, but I can't just walk away from such cruel people, and not prepare a proper response. 1. Noob is derived from the word "new" I am by no means to to this game I have a starter deck kaiba when the game started like a lot of people. 2. Yes, I do not like meta not because I lose to them constantly, but because they are all in spirit the same thing. Lightsworns mill they all have plague, they all have nerco. Dark decks have dark counter parts, etc. I hate Meta because they are boring. Ever since I started putting thought into my decks I have been using decks they play strangely.Spirits, Crystal beasts, Koa'ki meiru, etc. 3. to be honest I joined the guild to have intelligent, and polite discussions about decks I would like help on. Instead I was greeted, by ignorant, narrow minded, cruel, foul mouthed, scum of the earth. I have played a lot of games, and I must say that of all the communities out there no one has more rude, heartless, unimaginative players than yugioh. ^_^ end of line
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:26 am
Burakku_Kitsune Boxxy 110 Burakku_Kitsune "....Are we speaking to me? 0.0" yes i'm speaking to you otherwise I wouldn't have quoted you. I read a few of your posts, you sound and act like nothing more than a butthurt noob. Honestly I joined this guild hoping there were a few good players on gaia. Apparently I looked in the wrong place, most of you are horrible at this game. That's being nice. "Ah ok I wasn't sure if you were, or not I'm glad we got that cleared up ^_^ I know this argument is wrong because this is a thread dedicated to this persons deck, not to people fighting, but I can't just walk away from such cruel people, and not prepare a proper response. 1. Noob is derived from the word "new" I am by no means to to this game I have a starter deck kaiba when the game started like a lot of people. 2. Yes, I do not like meta not because I lose to them constantly, but because they are all in spirit the same thing. Lightsworns mill they all have plague, they all have nerco. Dark decks have dark counter parts, etc. I hate Meta because they are boring. Ever since I started putting thought into my decks I have been using decks they play strangely.Spirits, Crystal beasts, Koa'ki meiru, etc. 3. to be honest I joined the guild to have intelligent, and polite discussions about decks I would like help on. Instead I was greeted, by ignorant, narrow minded, cruel, foul mouthed, scum of the earth. I have played a lot of games, and I must say that of all the communities out there no one has more rude, heartless, unimaginative players than yugioh. ^_^ end of line You do know saying the meta is boring just only furthers my point? No actually that's newb. the term you're thinking of is derrived into to parts. Newb a person willing to learn who is new. Noob is the ignorant counterpart of newb. Again from your past posts you seem to be the ignorant one, the reason they're arguing with you now is still the fact of you're absolutely retarded posts. And before you go off on lightsworn, take in mind that the deck had a lot of skill until konami built a format for it. You don't simply drop judgment dragon and say gg. The meta is not the same thing, it's very versatile minus the format meant for lightsworn and the dad return/teledad era. And that unimaginative response is complete bs. There's a thing called tech learn it, live it, love it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:35 am
Burakku_Kitsune I no longer have to argue with you any more you are infamous for being completely worthless in the deck building area. If you do know what you are talking about you certainly don't show, you just pop in say the deck is worthless and never speak again unless spoken too. I no longer need to argue with you because you rarely have a convincing argument. And you are somehow worthy? You give convincing arguments? What a laugh, and a load of horse s**t.
You who barely ever posts, which can go under the three categories of "bad deck", "bad advice", and "bitching scrub angry at the meta".Burakku_Kitsune I have said it before and I say it now, the "Your-combo-sucks-because-this-card-can-screw-it-up" argument is the weakest in yugioh. But wait! The last time I argued with you on a fix, it was in axean's deck thread, and you wouldn't let go of how his Heavy Storm would screw up Necrovalley when he had multiple copies and ways to search them! So now you're taking my argument, which is the same as one you have provided in an earlier thread, and saying it's garbage. The difference is, I take into account the possibilities. Dimensional Prison, for example, is abundant in most of today's play at a staple of 2 and some in 3. Other monster removal continues to be in abundance, and highly in use in this game. I say it's going to show up and stomp on your a**, because it's going to happen far more many times than the opponent having no answer.Burakku_kitsune So what? Anyone can say in a forum that "That's stupid when you do that they will flip this and you will lose" It much more difficult to produce the result in game. I do not deny it could happen, but just because it can does not mean it will. No, sadly, with my example it's stupidly easy for the opponent to have the response just on the fact that the resource for them to have it comes at a much higher quantity than your combo.Burakku_kitsune and if you get that combo they only have what they have on the field because no monster can stand up to a 70000 atk head to head. So if they just summoned JD so what you still take 67000 damage. I am not saying this is a perfect strategy or deck build, what I am saying is that if you get it on the field you will still be ahead of your opponent." I keep putting down the whole fashion of Equip cards, attack and defense boosters because it has no bearing of being ahead of the opponent. Not when you can raise a monster's attack with seven cards to a million, and it takes a single Smashing Ground or Dimensional Prison to remove it from the field. When you pour the amount of resource like your combo has into a play that's dealt down by the high abundance of cards that can remove at no cost, it's a loss of advantage. The only attack increasers that have ever provided effectiveness to match the level of the card removal we see is Honest and Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow, because aside from three cards, there's no actual effective and sufficient support to actually stop or destroy them.
Tl;dr, my arguments and my plays happen more, and provide better results than yours.Burakku_kitsune Yes, I do not like meta not because I lose to them constantly, but because they are all in spirit the same thing. Lightsworns mill they all have plague, they all have nerco. Dark decks have dark counter parts, etc. I hate Meta because they are boring. Ever since I started putting thought into my decks I have been using decks they play strangely.Spirits, Crystal beasts, Koa'ki meiru, etc. I know you said you didn't care to read it before, but I'll say it again because it seems it hasn't gotten into that head of yours.
Decks in the meta are constructed in their fashion because there is no extensive resource in the game to provide variety. Konami is responsible for filling our sets with 95% of cards that just don't provide results with the remaining 5%, then sponsor the game in events where a high abundance of money is at stake, thus creating the 5% to not only be highly sought for and used, but become worth a good amount of money on their own.
You blame the players for playing the game, without looking at the picture that the game was made this way with the flaw intended. The game somehow getting their act together, the meta expanding and the prices of it decreasing, but nowhere near where it should be.
Yu-Gi-Oh! is far from being the game of equal opportunity.
|
|
|
|
|
Francine These Chocodiles
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:36 am
"I don't see how me placing my own personal satisfaction above winning furthers your points. Are you trying to imply, that if you are having fun and not winning you are terrible at the game? I have a blackwing, and lightsworn deck. It's true they are sub par because I don't have money to pound down the konami rat hole, I have a gf to take on dates, and I have to buy food, and so many others things to buy. But regardless I only use my Blackwing or lightsworn when I don't feel like dueling. They almost play themselves I usually beat my brother, gf, friend whatever in a couple turns with them, but when I want to play and actually have fun I go to my spirits, or other decks I like better.
The bottom line is I don't give a damn how good they are I would honestly rather lose and have the time of my life, than win, and be bored to tears, if I have ever derived any emotion from playing my BW or LS it was sadistic cruelty at not even giving Nico a chance to summon her Harpies Dragon, or my brothers synchro into Blackrose. I am done arguing I don't need my day ruined, by someone who thinks their way is the only way.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:48 am
Burakku_Kitsune "I don't see how me placing my own personal satisfaction above winning furthers your points. Are you trying to imply, that if you are having fun and not winning you are terrible at the game? I have a blackwing, and lightsworn deck. It's true they are sub par because I don't have money to pound down the konami rat hole, I have a gf to take on dates, and I have to buy food, and so many others things to buy. But regardless I only use my Blackwing or lightsworn when I don't feel like dueling. They almost play themselves I usually beat my brother, gf, friend whatever in a couple turns with them, but when I want to play and actually have fun I go to my spirits, or other decks I like better. The bottom line is I don't give a damn how good they are I would honestly rather lose and have the time of my life, than win, and be bored to tears, if I have ever derived any emotion from playing my BW or LS it was sadistic cruelty at not even giving Nico a chance to summon her Harpies Dragon, or my brothers synchro into Blackrose. I am done arguing I don't need my day ruined, by someone who thinks their way is the only way. I seriously hope you're joking. Bwings are the cheapest meta deck next to glads and quickdraw. And by god the reason i quit playing lightsworn was the fact it's value depreciated by over 600$. Guess what I have to do, I have to pay money for college, that's more than any woman you'll meet will ask you to spend on. That's a bad excuse. That's fine, while you lose and continuously believe that you're giving your opponent a hard time "which in reality you're not", I'll continue to have fun by winning money ect. You obviously don't have any concept of this game. And let's go on the subject of creativity. You know how quickdraw was made? Out of a complete whim of fun which turned out to be one of the best decks in this game. You only continue to show you're narrow mindedness. You refuse to listen to good advice because you're an absolute idiot and insist on your unrealistic ideas/combos will make you proud someday. That's a phase bad yugioh players continuously like to stay in and other yugioh players grow out of and win. If you're playing this game to have fun, then honestly quit because that's not something you're ever going to get. I enjoy building fun decks in my spare time and use it as a form of destressing before nats which is why every year I make some retarded stupid deck that has sup par for side events. last year it was dad on a boat. year before was happy father (glad beasts with 2 dads), exodia ohm. This year I intend on bringing back rainbow dark otk. Do I believe these decks will win side events? Hell no. Sure run away, that's what most noobs do when they don't want to hear the truth.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:14 pm
Well as it seems no more advice is being given, and this thread has dissolved into arguments, I'll be locking it. If anyone feels this is unfair, or if the owner wants it unlocked feel free to PM me. No warning this time, but you should all try to be a bit nicer to each others. Freed, and Boxxy hold back on the insults a bit when you argue. Kitsune try to not be so closed minded to the whole meta thing. Sure it's made of dominant decks, but Freed said it, it's only because that's how Konami designs it. Also try no to start s**t like this again. I know they both replied, but you did start this back here... Burakku_Kitsune Freed the Benevolent Burakku_Kitsune armycat jockamoe Burakku_Kitsune xd What?! I love Victory Viper! It's cool, but that set up is horribly ineffective. "Ineffective or inefficient? Both. stfu no one listens to you anymore. Just you know next time maybe ask why your idea is bad, instead of going STFU all over the place. Questions, comments, concerns? PM me.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|