the best starter overall

[lilharper]

who do you think it is, use the final evolution and consider move pool, typing, and stats and lets use the 4th gen incarnations please
i say infernape
although a fire/fighting with 4 weakness and bad defenses, it has great speed and equal attack and sp.atk make it a great sweeper in both fields and if it runs as a mix sweeper it can really kick some butt, both blissey and skarmory need to watch out for this guy. with a nice move pool it can live up to the expectations of its stats moves like, EQ, close combat, focus blast, flamethrower, flare blitz, fire blast, grass knot, thunderpunch, nasty plot, slack off, and calm mind.  

[Gamefreak41495]

I'd say Swampert. It's got great defensive stats, good offensive stats and can set up SR. It can also run mixed sets and functions incredibly as a tank.  

[lilharper]

very true but grass knot kills it  

[Gamefreak41495]

lilharper

very true but grass knot kills it

And pretty much anything Super-effective kills Infernape. And not too many commonly used Pokemon carry Grass Knot. But almost everything has Earthquake.  

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gamefreak41495

lilharper

very true but grass knot kills it

And pretty much anything Super-effective kills Infernape. And not too many commonly used Pokemon carry Grass Knot. But almost everything has Earthquake.

quite true