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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:39 am


Hawkeye-iow
I don't know whats wrong but some of the southern Americans are very intolerant towards other countries and EVEN other states Its strange.


Yes I agree that there is a certain hostility towards other states within the USA. For instance, the south refers to the Civil War in America as "The War of Northern Aggression." But then again...they are the South...
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:00 pm


I don't like their money. Mine is better. Almost like Monopoly money.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:16 pm


KaoriCeres
Yes I agree that there is a certain hostility towards other states within the USA. For instance, the south refers to the Civil War in America as "The War of Northern Aggression." But then again...they are the South...


Hey, I'm from the south(of course its not the deep south). wink
Well, that war is history and there isn't much that can be done now, but to learn from it. I do think that both sides were a bit to blame on that one, but I won't got into it here. There is quite a bit of Civil War History very close to where I live so I do find it fascinating. I do see what you mean about most Americans not being tolerant of anything different. It does exist between states and particularly with other countries. Personally, I love to read up on other countries, but there is still more for me to learn about Western Europe. I guess I found European history(particulary England and Russian) to be very interesting so I took quite a bit of time on my own to study it. Although, I have hopes that maybe the internet will help bridge the culture gaps a bit more so that Americans understand themselves as well as the rest of the World better.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:31 am


dExtrosien
KaoriCeres
Yes I agree that there is a certain hostility towards other states within the USA. For instance, the south refers to the Civil War in America as "The War of Northern Aggression." But then again...they are the South...


Hey, I'm from the south(of course its not the deep south). wink
Well, that war is history and there isn't much that can be done now, but to learn from it. I do think that both sides were a bit to blame on that one, but I won't got into it here. There is quite a bit of Civil War History very close to where I live so I do find it fascinating. I do see what you mean about most Americans not being tolerant of anything different. It does exist between states and particularly with other countries. Personally, I love to read up on other countries, but there is still more for me to learn about Western Europe. I guess I found European history(particulary England and Russian) to be very interesting so I took quite a bit of time on my own to study it. Although, I have hopes that maybe the internet will help bridge the culture gaps a bit more so that Americans understand themselves as well as the rest of the World better.


It seems to me that the internet is already doing that. At least as far as I've seen.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:44 am


dExtrosien
Although, I have hopes that maybe the internet will help bridge the culture gaps a bit more so that Americans understand themselves as well as the rest of the World better.


I hope so too. The internet is an ideal conduit for cross-cultural understanding.

Though, largely, it seems to have failed thus far.

sad
PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:14 pm


I'm an American. I have the craziest accent because I live way south, in Texas, in the most redneck community you can possibly imagine. Do you know, in our high schools it was actually forbidden to speak in a foreign language? Even Spanish was against the rules, and that's not really a foreign language in Texas. And nobody watches the news. Nobody cares about history. Nobody reads. So...yeah, most of us are ignorant, spoiled, and narrow-minded. Where I live, the town leaders (the mayor, the judges, the school board, etc.) are all members in good standing of the same Baptist church, and apparently God doesn't love you if you don't worship George Bush. stare People don't want to know what's going on around the world. I had an arguement with a girl several days ago about Egyptian culture...she thought they were still wearing gold headdresses and see-through white robes. It's kind of ridiculous, and I don't really blame the people who say they hate Americans. I kind of hate us, too. We're idiots.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:22 pm


KaoriCeres
Hawkeye-iow
I don't know whats wrong but some of the southern Americans are very intolerant towards other countries and EVEN other states Its strange.


Yes I agree that there is a certain hostility towards other states within the USA. For instance, the south refers to the Civil War in America as "The War of Northern Aggression." But then again...they are the South...



Lol. Yeah, my neighbor has this huge Confederate flag painted on his barn; you can see it all the way from the highway. People tend to remember the Civil War fondly where I live. Those stupid flags are all over everything--hats, t-shirts, cars, lighters...it's crazy. Yankees need a passport to come down here.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:23 am


I've one of those flags in minature form on the front of my car. I'm not sure how to react to it, but I may keep it simply to shock people.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:10 pm


A few years ago in school(or was this last year?), during history, I swear we were taught more about america then any other country. For example, when learning about the slave trade, we were only taught the american veiw of it, from the start of slavery in america, to the end of slavery in america. I think the only thing taught about england during this was the fact that it was the brittish transporting the slaves(something along those lines, anyway - never payed much attention in history. Well, I would have if we were taught something I would enjoy learning about... Like something about europe that doesn't include the romans, for example)

and the main thing that year I believe was the american civil war.

I'm glad now that I can do sociology instead of history.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:28 pm


frostbitt_en
A few years ago in school(or was this last year?), during history, I swear we were taught more about america then any other country. For example, when learning about the slave trade, we were only taught the american veiw of it, from the start of slavery in america, to the end of slavery in america. I think the only thing taught about england during this was the fact that it was the brittish transporting the slaves(something along those lines, anyway - never payed much attention in history. Well, I would have if we were taught something I would enjoy learning about... Like something about europe that doesn't include the romans, for example)

and the main thing that year I believe was the american civil war.

I'm glad now that I can do sociology instead of history.


How nice of them to overlook the fact the Britain was the first nation to ban slavery, and that we used our royal navy to hunt down and prevent American slave-ships (among other) from trading.

rolleyes

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whathedickens

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:25 am


Hawkeye-iow
I don't know whats wrong but some of the southern Americans are very intolerant towards other countries and EVEN other states Its strange.


My roommate is from Georgia and it's not like that with her. Not everyone is the same, which I know is understood. There are a lot of generalizations made by Americans about other Americans. There's a certain stereotype for each part; the Mid-West, East Coast, New England, the South, West Coast... Again, not something characteristic of just the U.S. Stuff like that happens everywhere. You just have to hope you run into and make friends with the more pleasant people from each place. smile
PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:18 am


I am American and I too must admit that I find my country's ignorance horrifying at times. But that's the thing though isn't it? SOME Americans are woefully oblivious and OTHERS do all they can to make up for those ignoramouses (I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure how to spell that). However, my seventh grade History teacher spent almost a semester teaching us about the United Kingdom when the book's lesson was only ten pages. Listening to her made me remember the inspiring week I spent in England in fourth grade. In fact, because of her, I'm hoping to move to England once I finish college. So while there are blindly ignorant people, there are others who try to make up for it.

dramaducky13


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:22 pm


Now, I myself am an American, but am still currently studying abroad in Japan. I lived in the middle part of the states and from what I have taken notice, is that the Midwest seems to be the less ignorant. At the HS where I did attened for a slight time, we were encouraged to take classes that involved the learning about other cultures. We had British Literature, World History, World Politics, and European studies.

I think that to generalize the whole American public as a whole is the wrong thing to do. Truthfully, you must look to the leaders of the nation. And with leaders in mind, that includes past, present, and future leaders alike. I believe that the whole reason that America holds such biased opinions is that due to some lack of funding in the US educational system, and past wars and current battles in other nations, many US states believe in the misconceptions that are still in place, such as Egyptians still wearing gold head dresses.
Secondly, the media is somewhat to blame, but yet at the same time it is not. The media's duty is to inform the public, and that is exactly what it does. It informs. There are channels that show a conservative aspect and there are news reports that show a Liberal point of view. Then there are stations and broadcast systems that take an independant view on it. I agree that the media shapes and defines what the US population bases their judgement off of, but the Biggest enemy by far is the families.
The families introduce us to the world of politics and the way each child should view the world as a whole. The family already has a precept into the view of the world and they pass that on to their children. In fact it happens all over the world as we speak.

In the end, I think that in order to call America ignorant, we must call All other nations ignorant, because America is based off of different cultures. We are the land of the free, and we have the right to express our freedoms. In that case in point, the moldings of our own past and of all nations involved in that history place a deep root in which we end up basing all of our judgements from. And that's true in all countries as well.
And that's not to say that I think my country isn't ignorant, but looking at things as a whole, I think we are all ignorant within our own nations as well.

I just want to ask a question... Why is it that whenever Americans show a uneducated way of looking at other countries, it's ignorant, but when other countries bash on us for being ignorant rather than try to understand how our media and the whole system of education and family education runs, it's simply okay to do so? That's what I've noticed.

(I'm sorry if some of this sounds like rambling, but I've only gotten 2 hours of sleep in a 3 day period.)
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:59 am


On American idiots: The dumber they are, the louder they seem to yell.

It's just like you only notice when things go wrong... I have some very loveable American friends, but some of them are incredibly ignorant and stupid. I like New Yorkers best though. Overally I find Americans nice but ignorant people, just like my father (Canadian from Saskatchewan (farming province)).

My opinion on the country is that it sucks; economically and politically speaking. The people are nice, but kept un-informed, as a rule. When it comes to judging individuals I actually speak with them and judge them based on what I know about them as individuals as opposed to just pre-judging them (for the most part). Although there is a similar mentality in my part of the country so I kind of have a very strong dislike for most individuals here as well.

I feel like Canada is the only place with proper social studies classes. We learn about major American events, the sad fact that we had internment camps where we stuffed all people of asian descent during WWII (my area of Canada has a large Asian community, Calgary's Chinatown is supposedly rather large). We hear about the embarassments of our past Prime Ministers. We covered Reagan, Thatcher, current events (they encourage you to read the paper and watch the news), the world wars, national crisis, peacekeeping missions abroad, military history (I'm very proud of Canada's golden age of the military), how our economy works, other economic systems (capitalism, communism, socialism, fascism), all sorts of wonderful things.

We learn about our British roots and the process by which we became a sovereign nation, and how we prompted other Commonwealth states to ask for independence (as opposed to the American "f*** you, Britain!" response). If anything we get too much Native American history. I understood they got screwed out of their land and homes and way of life when I learned about it in grade 5, I didn't need to learn about Louis Riel and all that again in junior high and high school... We also covered the industrial revolution twice, but once it was in junior high and the next time was in high school and the other kids new nothing about it.

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