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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:31 am
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:04 pm
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I've never really met anyone who was veg*n because it was trendy. I have a hard time seeing how veg*nism is trendy - most of us don't know other veg*ns & deal with harassment because of our lifestyle on a daily basis. I know there are a few veg*n bands out there, but I think that once you learn more about veg*nism and how ******** up eating animal products is, you won't go back, it's not a fad or a trend, at least to you. I became vegan after reading a book about veg*nism. Once I found out that we don't need to eat animal products to be healthy, so we're killing, torturing, and exploiting animals solely for pleasure, I couldn't eat them anymore. And I can't imagine ever going back. Not to mention how horrible these industries are for the environment, the people working inside them, and our health.
I think eventually (thousands of years, actually, if we're still here,) we'll have a vegetarian or vegan world. It took us a long enough time to realize rape, child abuse, child labor, slavery, and other forms of human exploitation were wrong - it will take even longer to extend our compassion to non-human animals, especially when their exploitation is so ingrained into our lives. They also depend on us to speak for them, they're literally voiceless, which will make the struggle even longer.
Veg*nism has become more and more mainstream over the years and I think it will continue to be. As more people learn about how we're exploiting these animals, the negative impact on our environment, our health, etc. more people will become veg*n.
As for in-vitro meat, it takes a lot of energy and is awful for the environment, so I wouldn't support it. It also furthers the view that animals are commodities, not beings. How many people would support growing human meat for us to eat? To get to this stage, we also have to, as you mentioned, use animals for the cells and experimentation. We've used "for the greater good" to justify research on humans and non-human animals, infanticide, siblicide, and even genocide. I wouldn't want to be experimented on, or to have my family, friends, or companion animals experimented on (and eventually killed,) even if it would save more lives.
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:57 pm
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:29 am
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:12 pm
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#1. Comparing human diets to carnivores is idiotic, and I'm tired of seeing that argument over and over again. Please stop bringing it up, it's only making your argument look worse.
#2. I think we'll see gay marriages and free world-wide health care before we see an entirely vegetarian planet. As long as people like Ted Nugent and on the opposite side of the spectrum, PETA, are around, the world will never be vegetarian, much less vegan. I think our planet will end because of global warming or other such reaction to human exponential growth before the world is even 50% vegetarian. Yeah, I'm such an optimistic person, aren't I? I'm sorry, while it would be REALLY nice for the world to be like that, it's just not going to happen. Instead of focusing on making everyone and their mom veg*n, we need to fix the problem with current meat-eaters: buying meat from factory farms. Only when we remove the mass production of meat and have people buy more organic, less fatty (and, no doubt, more expensive) will these people maybe start looking at the possibility of eating even healthier. I could go into more detail, but I hope you see where I'm going with this.
#3. In vitro meat... uh, no thanks. From what I understand, at the moment it can only produce "meat" the consistency of a processed chicken patty. Even then, many people are veg*ns because they don't like the taste of meat... the omnivores who do like meat will no way in hell give up the real thing for that, and I'm pretty sure most vegetarians that don't eat meat for ethical reasons will still feel guilty. They might even think it may lead them to want o eat real meat. I dunno, I think I'm reaching here at this point.
#4. I've actually known a few people who went vegetarian to be "trendy." I think trendy is a strong word, it's definitely more of an attention whore, especially when they would find every opportunity possible to tell everyone around them that they didn't eat meat. It was especially obvious in the kids who started shoving anti-meat facts in front of complete strangers. It's really embarrassing, and I'll be damned if they eat meat today. Hypocrites make the world go round. surprised
P.S. My apologies for the first point, but seriously, knock it off lol.
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:19 am
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:20 pm
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