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[aoijea23487]

... i have made a grave error. i have thoroughly confused abolitionist animal rights with veganism, and have been confusing the two concepts. not to mention arguing out of my butt defending "abolitionist veganism," which in retrospect doesn't make a whole lot of sense denotation-wise. veganism is a part of AR, but i was wrongfully attributing arguments of AR to veganism.

concessions:
merriam-webster and Tea are right on that definition.  

[Violet Song jat Shariff]

I still don't really feels like that answers my question though neutral

Really, if it weren't for my dog I'd probably be dead. He's like my kid. He keeps me sane. He keeps me in line.  

[aoijea23487]

Violet Song jat Shariff

I still don't really feels like that answers my question though neutral

Really, if it weren't for my dog I'd probably be dead. He's like my kid. He keeps me sane. He keeps me in line.

right.
the exploitation is in the intention of owning an animal for the wrong reasons. Francione [guy on the interview] argues that if you're getting a dog simply because you're lonely and want companionship, that's exploitation. it means that you think the objective value of the dog's life is about whether or not it satisfies your desires.

if you're getting a dog because you can offer him/her a good home because shelters suck and he/she deserves better, that's okay. i personally would say that a combination of both isn't a bad thing. if you can offer a great home to a pet in need, which simultaneously fulfills the lonliness you experience, cool.  

[TeaDidikai]

Collowrath

No honey on the porridge? sad That would make me a sad boy if I had to have my porridge with no honey.

Not if you're vegan. wink

Concessions accepted.

Just as a point of reference, I went through a period when I was vegetarian because the feeling of flesh between my teeth was like nails on a chalk board. I grew out of it, but during my time as a vegetarian I devoted a fair amount of study as to why idiots kept calling me a hypocrite for being vegetarian while still coveting my precious leather sandals.

Pasco/Avo/Lacto/Vegan etc, and the politics that get lumped in with them tend to be a hot button, especially when it gets preachy and people make assumptions.  

[Chaos Blue]

So it's finally become increasingly apparent to me how terrible the state of the nation is in.
Doesn't really hit you til it hits you.  

[kage no neko]

I hate shopping, I really do.
Things like this always freaking happens. Fits fine at the store, get home and suddenly it's way too small or way too big and it's just a freaking waste of time. And the stuff you can't even exchange, like bras and panties! The frustration...  

[Calixti]

TeaDidikai

Collowrath

No honey on the porridge? sad That would make me a sad boy if I had to have my porridge with no honey.

Not if you're vegan. wink

Concessions accepted.

Just as a point of reference, I went through a period when I was vegetarian because the feeling of flesh between my teeth was like nails on a chalk board. I grew out of it, but during my time as a vegetarian I devoted a fair amount of study as to why idiots kept calling me a hypocrite for being vegetarian while still coveting my precious leather sandals.

Pasco/Avo/Lacto/Vegan etc, and the politics that get lumped in with them tend to be a hot button, especially when it gets preachy and people make assumptions.

I often get accused of not being a "real" vegetarian because I'd rather see the meat and dairy industries reformed instead of doing away with them. Or because I'm not a vegetarian for health or animal rights reasons. Or because I've been known to cook meat for my family. Or because blah blah blah. Sigh.

ETA: Okay, the no health reasons is a lie. Meat and meat byproducts do make me pretty ill; depending on how much I've ingested, I get what looks pretty similar to an allergic reaction. But if I cared to and reintroduced it slowly, I could probably add fish and poultry to my diet without a problem.  

[TeaDidikai]

Calixti

I often get accused of not being a "real" vegetarian because I'd rather see the meat and dairy industries reformed instead of doing away with them. Or because I'm not a vegetarian for health or animal rights reasons. Or because I've been known to cook meat for my family. Or because blah blah blah. Sigh.

No True Scotsman Fallacies for the win.  

[Wrath of Ezekiel]

I got confused at university at the definition of vegetarian. Mostly because Indian people count not eating eggs as vegetarian, so when my vege-room mate was eating eggs the morning after, I was thoroughly confused until someone explain it to me. xD  

[Recursive Paradox]

Illiezeulette

Recursive Paradox

Violet Song jat Shariff

So....can you (or anyone) explain to me how having my Toby-dog is exploiting or otherwise harming him?

Seems like a load of bullshit to me. So I guess I'd like an explanation too.

this is the abolitionist stance on pets/animal companions.
Sixth one down from the top.

His comparisons to the slaves in the 1840's is a false analogy. He needs to establish that common pet animals have the same level of sentience and self determination as human beings before he can compare pets to human slaves.

He's also citing neuroses in pets that are purely anecdotal as a reason for claiming that they are in a bad situation in domestication.

So basically, it's a bunch of fallacious garbage.  

[Violet Song jat Shariff]

So.

I think one of my friends from uni read a ranting blog post of mine, became offended, and is now not speaking to me. I mean, she has every right to be offended; that I don't contest. I just wish she'd, you know, say something to me about it.

Part of me wants to care that she might have read it and might be upset, but the other part of me just...wants her gone. We had a good run, but sometimes I feel like the friendship is NOT mutually beneficial.

I'm sort of unsure as to what to do now. I care, but I sort of don't care enough to ask her if she's alright.  

[TeaDidikai]

So, my Nana's health has taken a slight turn for the worse. Physically she's doing better, but mentally, she's slipping further away. cry