"The Old Testament Doesn't Count!"

[Priestley]

Keep it on topic guys, or create a new thread. You know the rules...

...and so do I! *breaks into 'Never Gonna Give You Up' by Rick Astley*  

[Fushigi na Butterfly]

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

As would any tyrant. 3nodding

So would an innocent person. stare We're arguing in circles now. I'm pretty sure that the Creator of the universe would have a bit of a better perspective of justice than someone He happened to stick into that universe. That's like telling the brain it's wrong for operating the way it does.

"But why does this cell only react to horizontal bars moving sideways? That's dumb!" Though, the brain didn't create itself and it's not something that's always existed ... never mind. I hope you get my point. Whether you agree with it or not. -headdesk-

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm almost sure that my brain doesn't process perfectly all the time. I make mistakes.
Well, most brains certainly are wrong to some degree. neutral

How so??

Well, I don't know about you, but I know that my brain has been wrong before. neutral

But not out of a flaw in itself. Just because the brain might arrive at a "wrong" conclusion doesn't mean it's doing anything wrong. For the most part, unless you have a mental disorder, your brain is operating according to its design and function.  

[Lethkhar]

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

As would any tyrant. 3nodding

So would an innocent person. stare We're arguing in circles now. I'm pretty sure that the Creator of the universe would have a bit of a better perspective of justice than someone He happened to stick into that universe. That's like telling the brain it's wrong for operating the way it does.

"But why does this cell only react to horizontal bars moving sideways? That's dumb!" Though, the brain didn't create itself and it's not something that's always existed ... never mind. I hope you get my point. Whether you agree with it or not. -headdesk-

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm almost sure that my brain doesn't process perfectly all the time. I make mistakes.
Well, most brains certainly are wrong to some degree. neutral

How so??

Well, I don't know about you, but I know that my brain has been wrong before. neutral

But not out of a flaw in itself. Just because the brain might arrive at a "wrong" conclusion doesn't mean it's doing anything wrong. For the most part, unless you have a mental disorder, your brain is operating according to its design and function.

So when, on my math test, I somehow wrote that 2^3=6, my brain was functioning correctly? (True story...I can be really stupid sometimes...)

No. My brain is my processing center. If I mess up in math, then it's my brain's fault.  

[Priestley]

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm almost sure that my brain doesn't process perfectly all the time. I make mistakes.
Well, most brains certainly are wrong to some degree. neutral

How so??

Well, I don't know about you, but I know that my brain has been wrong before. neutral

But not out of a flaw in itself. Just because the brain might arrive at a "wrong" conclusion doesn't mean it's doing anything wrong. For the most part, unless you have a mental disorder, your brain is operating according to its design and function.

So when, on my math test, I somehow wrote that 2^3=6, my brain was functioning correctly? (True story...I can be really stupid sometimes...)

No. My brain is my processing center. If I mess up in math, then it's my brain's fault.

Drifting so far from the original point, people.

The point Fushigi made was that the Creator of the universe would have a far better understanding of justice than a person such as yourself who was borne into such a universe.  

[Lethkhar]

Priestley

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm almost sure that my brain doesn't process perfectly all the time. I make mistakes.
Well, most brains certainly are wrong to some degree. neutral

How so??

Well, I don't know about you, but I know that my brain has been wrong before. neutral

But not out of a flaw in itself. Just because the brain might arrive at a "wrong" conclusion doesn't mean it's doing anything wrong. For the most part, unless you have a mental disorder, your brain is operating according to its design and function.

So when, on my math test, I somehow wrote that 2^3=6, my brain was functioning correctly? (True story...I can be really stupid sometimes...)

No. My brain is my processing center. If I mess up in math, then it's my brain's fault.

Drifting so far from the original point, people.

The point Fushigi made was that the Creator of the universe would have a far better understanding of justice than a person such as yourself who was borne into such a universe.

"Justice" is subjective. How on earth can you have a better understanding of justice than someone else?  

[GuardianAngel44]

Lethkhar

Priestley

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Well, I don't know about you, but I know that my brain has been wrong before. neutral

But not out of a flaw in itself. Just because the brain might arrive at a "wrong" conclusion doesn't mean it's doing anything wrong. For the most part, unless you have a mental disorder, your brain is operating according to its design and function.

So when, on my math test, I somehow wrote that 2^3=6, my brain was functioning correctly? (True story...I can be really stupid sometimes...)

No. My brain is my processing center. If I mess up in math, then it's my brain's fault.

Drifting so far from the original point, people.

The point Fushigi made was that the Creator of the universe would have a far better understanding of justice than a person such as yourself who was borne into such a universe.

"Justice" is subjective. How on earth can you have a better understanding of justice than someone else?

You can't - on earth. wink  

[Lethkhar]

GuardianAngel44

Lethkhar

Priestley

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Well, I don't know about you, but I know that my brain has been wrong before. neutral

But not out of a flaw in itself. Just because the brain might arrive at a "wrong" conclusion doesn't mean it's doing anything wrong. For the most part, unless you have a mental disorder, your brain is operating according to its design and function.

So when, on my math test, I somehow wrote that 2^3=6, my brain was functioning correctly? (True story...I can be really stupid sometimes...)

No. My brain is my processing center. If I mess up in math, then it's my brain's fault.

Drifting so far from the original point, people.

The point Fushigi made was that the Creator of the universe would have a far better understanding of justice than a person such as yourself who was borne into such a universe.

"Justice" is subjective. How on earth can you have a better understanding of justice than someone else?

You can't - on earth. wink

How could you off of it?  

[Priestley]

Lethkhar

GuardianAngel44

Lethkhar

Priestley

Lethkhar

So when, on my math test, I somehow wrote that 2^3=6, my brain was functioning correctly? (True story...I can be really stupid sometimes...)

No. My brain is my processing center. If I mess up in math, then it's my brain's fault.

Drifting so far from the original point, people.

The point Fushigi made was that the Creator of the universe would have a far better understanding of justice than a person such as yourself who was borne into such a universe.

"Justice" is subjective. How on earth can you have a better understanding of justice than someone else?

You can't - on earth. wink

How could you off of it?

So you think God can't or won't be objective when it comes to justice?  

[Fushigi na Butterfly]

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm almost sure that my brain doesn't process perfectly all the time. I make mistakes.
Well, most brains certainly are wrong to some degree. neutral

How so??

Well, I don't know about you, but I know that my brain has been wrong before. neutral

But not out of a flaw in itself. Just because the brain might arrive at a "wrong" conclusion doesn't mean it's doing anything wrong. For the most part, unless you have a mental disorder, your brain is operating according to its design and function.

So when, on my math test, I somehow wrote that 2^3=6, my brain was functioning correctly? (True story...I can be really stupid sometimes...)

No. My brain is my processing center. If I mess up in math, then it's my brain's fault.

It could have been a visual perception mistake or a motor ... you know what, never mind. Irrelevant. Your brain does what it does, arriving at the conclusions that it arrives at. Just because those conclusions are wrong does not mean the brain made a mistake in arriving there. It followed the same process and pattern it always does, doing exactly what it's supposed to do. But now it's not really helping my point any.

God has always existed and everything else that exists does because of Him. He created the concept of justice and has the best understanding of it because He created it. Unlike people who can screw up when they invent something or who can have their inventions improved upon this doesn't apply to God. He sets the standard for justice because there is no other. He is the highest entity above everything; nothing can be above Him or better than Him. His understanding of the universe- seeing as how He created it- is perfect and flawless. If anyone has a better understanding of it (or anything in it) they would have to be above God.  

[GuardianAngel44]

Lethkhar

GuardianAngel44

Lethkhar

Priestley

Lethkhar

So when, on my math test, I somehow wrote that 2^3=6, my brain was functioning correctly? (True story...I can be really stupid sometimes...)

No. My brain is my processing center. If I mess up in math, then it's my brain's fault.

Drifting so far from the original point, people.

The point Fushigi made was that the Creator of the universe would have a far better understanding of justice than a person such as yourself who was borne into such a universe.

"Justice" is subjective. How on earth can you have a better understanding of justice than someone else?

You can't - on earth. wink

How could you off of it?

Have you been off it? Could you truly and completely understand something unless you've seen or done it for yourself?  

[Lethkhar]

Priestley

Lethkhar

GuardianAngel44

Lethkhar

Priestley

Lethkhar

So when, on my math test, I somehow wrote that 2^3=6, my brain was functioning correctly? (True story...I can be really stupid sometimes...)

No. My brain is my processing center. If I mess up in math, then it's my brain's fault.

Drifting so far from the original point, people.

The point Fushigi made was that the Creator of the universe would have a far better understanding of justice than a person such as yourself who was borne into such a universe.

"Justice" is subjective. How on earth can you have a better understanding of justice than someone else?

You can't - on earth. wink

How could you off of it?

So you think God can't or won't be objective when it comes to justice?

No. He's judge, jury, and defendant. Plus, "justice" is a subjective concept in itself. It's impossible.  

[Lethkhar]

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm almost sure that my brain doesn't process perfectly all the time. I make mistakes.
Well, most brains certainly are wrong to some degree. neutral

How so??

Well, I don't know about you, but I know that my brain has been wrong before. neutral

But not out of a flaw in itself. Just because the brain might arrive at a "wrong" conclusion doesn't mean it's doing anything wrong. For the most part, unless you have a mental disorder, your brain is operating according to its design and function.

So when, on my math test, I somehow wrote that 2^3=6, my brain was functioning correctly? (True story...I can be really stupid sometimes...)

No. My brain is my processing center. If I mess up in math, then it's my brain's fault.

It could have been a visual perception mistake or a motor ... you know what, never mind. Irrelevant. Your brain does what it does, arriving at the conclusions that it arrives at. Just because those conclusions are wrong does not mean the brain made a mistake in arriving there. It followed the same process and pattern it always does, doing exactly what it's supposed to do. But now it's not really helping my point any.

God has always existed and everything else that exists does because of Him. He created the concept of justice and has the best understanding of it because He created it. Unlike people who can screw up when they invent something or who can have their inventions improved upon this doesn't apply to God. He sets the standard for justice because there is no other. He is the highest entity above everything; nothing can be above Him or better than Him. His understanding of the universe- seeing as how He created it- is perfect and flawless. If anyone has a better understanding of it (or anything in it) they would have to be above God.

Why?

The creator does not have to be better at using the creation than everyone else in order to be better at creating that creation than everyone else.

There is a big difference between creating something and using it.  

[Lethkhar]

GuardianAngel44

Lethkhar

GuardianAngel44

Lethkhar

Priestley

Lethkhar

So when, on my math test, I somehow wrote that 2^3=6, my brain was functioning correctly? (True story...I can be really stupid sometimes...)

No. My brain is my processing center. If I mess up in math, then it's my brain's fault.

Drifting so far from the original point, people.

The point Fushigi made was that the Creator of the universe would have a far better understanding of justice than a person such as yourself who was borne into such a universe.

"Justice" is subjective. How on earth can you have a better understanding of justice than someone else?

You can't - on earth. wink

How could you off of it?

Have you been off it? Could you truly and completely understand something unless you've seen or done it for yourself?

I've felt the same sense of weightlessness in an elevator ride as I could in orbit. Really, it's the same effect. What's your point, anyway?  

[Fushigi na Butterfly]

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Well, I don't know about you, but I know that my brain has been wrong before. neutral

But not out of a flaw in itself. Just because the brain might arrive at a "wrong" conclusion doesn't mean it's doing anything wrong. For the most part, unless you have a mental disorder, your brain is operating according to its design and function.

So when, on my math test, I somehow wrote that 2^3=6, my brain was functioning correctly? (True story...I can be really stupid sometimes...)

No. My brain is my processing center. If I mess up in math, then it's my brain's fault.

It could have been a visual perception mistake or a motor ... you know what, never mind. Irrelevant. Your brain does what it does, arriving at the conclusions that it arrives at. Just because those conclusions are wrong does not mean the brain made a mistake in arriving there. It followed the same process and pattern it always does, doing exactly what it's supposed to do. But now it's not really helping my point any.

God has always existed and everything else that exists does because of Him. He created the concept of justice and has the best understanding of it because He created it. Unlike people who can screw up when they invent something or who can have their inventions improved upon this doesn't apply to God. He sets the standard for justice because there is no other. He is the highest entity above everything; nothing can be above Him or better than Him. His understanding of the universe- seeing as how He created it- is perfect and flawless. If anyone has a better understanding of it (or anything in it) they would have to be above God.

Why?

The creator does not have to be better at using the creation than everyone else in order to be better at creating that creation than everyone else.

There is a big difference between creating something and using it.

And God does both. He created justice and, setting the standard for what that means, uses it.  

[Lethkhar]

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Fushigi na Butterfly

Lethkhar

Well, I don't know about you, but I know that my brain has been wrong before. neutral

But not out of a flaw in itself. Just because the brain might arrive at a "wrong" conclusion doesn't mean it's doing anything wrong. For the most part, unless you have a mental disorder, your brain is operating according to its design and function.

So when, on my math test, I somehow wrote that 2^3=6, my brain was functioning correctly? (True story...I can be really stupid sometimes...)

No. My brain is my processing center. If I mess up in math, then it's my brain's fault.

It could have been a visual perception mistake or a motor ... you know what, never mind. Irrelevant. Your brain does what it does, arriving at the conclusions that it arrives at. Just because those conclusions are wrong does not mean the brain made a mistake in arriving there. It followed the same process and pattern it always does, doing exactly what it's supposed to do. But now it's not really helping my point any.

God has always existed and everything else that exists does because of Him. He created the concept of justice and has the best understanding of it because He created it. Unlike people who can screw up when they invent something or who can have their inventions improved upon this doesn't apply to God. He sets the standard for justice because there is no other. He is the highest entity above everything; nothing can be above Him or better than Him. His understanding of the universe- seeing as how He created it- is perfect and flawless. If anyone has a better understanding of it (or anything in it) they would have to be above God.

Why?

The creator does not have to be better at using the creation than everyone else in order to be better at creating that creation than everyone else.

There is a big difference between creating something and using it.

And God does both. He created justice and, setting the standard for what that means, uses it.

Just not as well as others might be able to.