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[Vikki Stardust]

DarkElf27

Vikki Stardust

Theres heroic and theres silly. xp

I don't think it'd be -too- far out of place. wink

Ones a rocket launcher, the other shows you that there are no bombs in the vehicle itself..  

[DarkElf27]

Vikki Stardust

DarkElf27

Vikki Stardust

Theres heroic and theres silly. xp

I don't think it'd be -too- far out of place. wink

Ones a rocket launcher, the other shows you that there are no bombs in the vehicle itself..

Point being, crazily unrealistic sized ordnance on tanks is not new to GW. xp  

[Lady Blodwynn]

DarkElf27

Point being, crazily unrealistic sized ordnance on tanks is not new to GW. xp

I think what is being alluded to is that while the Bombard has a large gun and the Deathstrike is an ICBM, they are at least in a more realistic range that "works" than the Big Momma cannon, which is so absurdly large that the vehicle cannot store any extra ammunition for its main weapon (Not to mention what the recoil would do to a wheeled(!) chassis with the gun in a fixed position), as it clearly does not have the space for this inside its rather undersized chassis.

The Bombard by the way has a dedicated ammunition Trojan where the crane arm grabs the shells from. wink

I think the Taurus can work as an ersatz Rhino or Razorback, but it lacks a certain mass that would make it more believable as a Predator or Vindicator, especially when paired with such an oversized conversion piece.

notmuch_23

I think the Big Momma Cannon was originally designed as an Ork belly gun, for either a gargant, stompa (instead of a transport capability, or a Kill Bursta: not as a cannon for anything smaller than a non-super-heavy.

I agree, it would be more in place with a Stompa or better yet, a Gargant. 3nodding  

[DarkElf27]

Lady Blodwynn

DarkElf27

Point being, crazily unrealistic sized ordnance on tanks is not new to GW. xp

I think what is being alluded to is that while the Bombard has a large gun and the Deathstrike is an ICBM, they are at least in a more realistic range that "works" than the Big Momma cannon, which is so absurdly large that the vehicle cannot store any extra ammunition for its main weapon (Not to mention what the recoil would do to a wheeled(!) chassis with the gun in a fixed position), as it clearly does not have the space for this inside its rather undersized chassis.

The Bombard by the way has a dedicated ammunition Trojan where the crane arm grabs the shells from. wink

I think the Taurus can work as an ersatz Rhino or Razorback, but it lacks a certain mass that would make it more believable as a Predator or Vindicator, especially when paired with such an oversized conversion piece.

notmuch_23

I think the Big Momma Cannon was originally designed as an Ork belly gun, for either a gargant, stompa (instead of a transport capability, or a Kill Bursta: not as a cannon for anything smaller than a non-super-heavy.

I agree, it would be more in place with a Stompa or better yet, a Gargant. 3nodding

I'd hardly call the Bombard realistic; the only comparable calibers for those man-sized shells are WWII battleships, and when those lit off, more than 50,000 tons of steel were shunted several feet through seawater from the recoil; a bitty 100-ton tank would do backflips, ammo cart or not. wink You might be able to sell me on the Deathstrike missile though, based on similarities to the SA-5 Gammon, which has a similarly humble launch apparatus.  

[Lady Blodwynn]

DarkElf27

I'd hardly call the Bombard realistic; the only comparable calibers for those man-sized shells are WWII battleships, and when those lit off, more than 50,000 tons of steel were shunted several feet through seawater from the recoil; a bitty 100-ton tank would do backflips, ammo cart or not. wink You might be able to sell me on the Deathstrike missile though, based on similarities to the SA-5 Gammon, which has a similarly humble launch apparatus.

Much of the Bombard is taken up by recoil dampeners (The devices surrounding the barrel) and it also has a nice large trail spade at the back that should help further compensate for the recoil. It is still a more believable vehicle than the Big Momma cannon shown. It might not work, but it shows that more thought has been put into the overall design of the vehicle.

I know for a fact that the Germans had land vehicles that fired munitions of such a large calibre, like the Schwerer Gustav for extreme cases and the Karl-Gerät ("Karl-device") for targets closer by, the latter being the primary inspiration for the Bombard by the by.

ninja You also misunderstand, the Trojan is not a cart, it is an artillery tractor.  

[DarkElf27]

Lady Blodwynn

DarkElf27

I'd hardly call the Bombard realistic; the only comparable calibers for those man-sized shells are WWII battleships, and when those lit off, more than 50,000 tons of steel were shunted several feet through seawater from the recoil; a bitty 100-ton tank would do backflips, ammo cart or not. wink You might be able to sell me on the Deathstrike missile though, based on similarities to the SA-5 Gammon, which has a similarly humble launch apparatus.

Much of the Bombard is taken up by recoil dampeners (The devices surrounding the barrel) and it also has a nice large trail spade at the back that should help further compensate for the recoil. It is still a more believable vehicle than the Big Momma cannon shown. It might not work, but it shows that more thought has been put into the overall design of the vehicle.

I know for a fact that the Germans had land vehicles that fired munitions of such a large calibre, like the Schwerer Gustav for extreme cases and the Karl-Gerät ("Karl-device") for targets closer by, the latter being the primary inspiration for the Bombard by the by.

ninja You also misunderstand, the Trojan is not a cart, it is an artillery tractor.

I use cart simply in the sense of comparison to the size of a ship. whee And those examples are quite comparable; the biggest difference I see is the firing angle (near-perpendicular to the ground), where the 40k and Puppet miniatures are much more forward-facing, a bit suicidal without the opposing support of the earth beneath one's treads (and certainly not wheels, as you point out).  

[Lady Blodwynn]

DarkElf27

Lady Blodwynn

DarkElf27

I'd hardly call the Bombard realistic; the only comparable calibers for those man-sized shells are WWII battleships, and when those lit off, more than 50,000 tons of steel were shunted several feet through seawater from the recoil; a bitty 100-ton tank would do backflips, ammo cart or not. wink You might be able to sell me on the Deathstrike missile though, based on similarities to the SA-5 Gammon, which has a similarly humble launch apparatus.

Much of the Bombard is taken up by recoil dampeners (The devices surrounding the barrel) and it also has a nice large trail spade at the back that should help further compensate for the recoil. It is still a more believable vehicle than the Big Momma cannon shown. It might not work, but it shows that more thought has been put into the overall design of the vehicle.

I know for a fact that the Germans had land vehicles that fired munitions of such a large calibre, like the Schwerer Gustav for extreme cases and the Karl-Gerät ("Karl-device") for targets closer by, the latter being the primary inspiration for the Bombard by the by.

ninja You also misunderstand, the Trojan is not a cart, it is an artillery tractor.

I use cart simply in the sense of comparison to the size of a ship. whee And those examples are quite comparable; the biggest difference I see is the firing angle (near-perpendicular to the ground), where the 40k and Puppet miniatures are much more forward-facing, a bit suicidal without the opposing support of the earth beneath one's treads (and certainly not wheels, as you point out).

 

[Vikki Stardust]

Okay you mooks, back on topic, take it the PM's.  

[Sean King]

Personally, I think it is nice to not be the only person posting in here.
Typhon  

[Sean King]

I find it interesting that after two months the Taurus is the first thing to get any kind of reaction.  

[Lady Blodwynn]

Sean King

Personally, I think it is nice to not be the only person posting in here.
Typhon

What of the Typhon? If it is meant as an example, I'd say it is a good one as the gun is well in proportion with the rest of the vehicle. 3nodding

Sean King

I find it interesting that after two months the Taurus is the first thing to get any kind of reaction.

To me personally, while the releases are quite a feat and I see what they are doing with them (Putting out a range of ersatz Space Marines), I find the designs rather bland and generic.  

[Sean King]

New today Winged Doon Strikers and Bat Wing -Packs.







 

[Sean King]

Whatever these little beasties are, we have been told they are to be released later this week.

 

[Lady Blodwynn]

They do look big enough to be used as alternate Thunderwolf mounts.  

[Sean King]

Another WIP.