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 Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:33 pm
Malheureux Just heard on NPR... California lawmaker proposing a law that will make spanking illegal... Of course this stupid b***h has no kids... stare This doesn't surprise me at all. I lived in CA. I was once called by a kindergarten teacher because she heard my kid got spanked. Teacher: "Well, you know there are other forms of discipline." Me: "And I employ them all, depending on the situation." "Then why did you spank your child?" "I only spank my child in cases of extreme danger or extreme disrespect." "I may need to contact child protective services." "Okay, but before you make any decision, I have to ask you a few questions about my child. Is she disrespectful? Does she act up in the class? Is she difficult to handle?" "No. She is a polite and pleasant child." "Is she shy, withdrawn, quiet?" "Oh no, she's outgoing, very curious and precosious."
"Has she ever shown any signs of being injured in any way? Any marks?"
"No, not at all."
"Perhaps you just don't know us or our parenting style."
I immediately joined the class as a volunteer. I was a school bus driver at the time.
California is very anti-spanking. I'm not surprised.
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:38 pm
I wish they would learn that there is a difference between spanking and beating a child, I know there are some people out there that take spanking too far, and those who don't know the difference, but a simple spanking is sometimes needed to make a child pay attention to a situation that could have been dangerous or out of hand, it is not ment to hurt, just get their attention... It is also not a way to vent your anger or frustration on a child. Most children that have been spanked (not beaten) will not need to be spanked beyond the age of about 5... they will have learned what you are trying to teach them.
I grew up with spankings and sometimes they were a lot more then a simple spank to get my attention... I'm sure you know what I mean. I do not feel like I was beaten, I do not have anger problems from it, I did not have problems with violence in school or any other times in life, etc. I know there are many other people that would be able to say the same thing, and we are all ok...
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:15 pm
yes, i know that all these laws are there to try and prevent child abuse, but, the same as most laws they go too far, and in this case prevent discipline when it's needed to stop children from turning into complete brats.
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:26 pm
Speeking of beating, I have been telling my teenager about the coming snow storm for a few days, I stopped her before she left for work today and told her what was expected to happen again... and after sending her multiple text messages to her phone that she never returned, I finally called her out of worry that she was in a ditch hurt somewhere. She claimed that she fell asleep in front of a movie and did not hear her phone (mind you she sleeps with her phone and will message people at all hours of the night). Now, I know she did this again so she would not be able to drive home and have to spend the night at her boyfriend's house... like the snow storm at the begining of this winter... but this one is really to bad for her to be driving in. I have watched out the window for quite a while and nothing is moving out there but snowmobiles. Our driveway is gone. My sister went off the road coming to the house at 10 this morning and warned her about what was happening out there. It makes me very mad that she does this, and I have no way to force her home, because it is too dangerous to drive.
I get real tired of the lack of respect...
And Tony if you read this, it goes to you too, most currently for lying about Megan's mother helping you re-finance your car...
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:07 am
Tomorrow is my daughter's graduation... *typical parent moment*... and the school has the nerve to limit the amount of guests each student can bring...
OK... I know that they are doing it for a reason, the gym is too small for that large of a croud, there would be too many people yelling for some students and we would soon not be able to hear the names of the other students as they are called up, etc... But, when I am told we have 4 tickets, this is the first of the grandkids to make it to graduation, we have a split family, and the family that is close to her all wants to come... and Tony and Megan drove all the way from NY to visit, how am I to choose who is coming???
Now, not everyone is as lucky as my daughter, but she called this morning to tell me that she was able to get 4 extra tickets... that means my husband and I get to go, grandma and grandpa, her bio-father and his new wife, and my sister and one of her 4 kids get to go... better than what was expected, but I still feel bad for not having tickets for my sister's other kids and my son and his girlfriend.
This graduation will be very important for my parents, my son did not graduate and my sister's kids are all home schooled so this is the only graduation they will get until Jasmine graduates 18 years from now... (but I doubt they will be around to see that... that sounded horrible... but I did not know how else to say it).
How dare our kids put us threw this? OK, that was a little harsh, but after all the years of ups and downs and all the people that help our kids make it to graduation... Now they want us to choose the most important people and only let them go to such a huge milestone in their lives.
I'm mentally exhausted. stressed
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:57 pm
We had to have tickets at my graduation, too. That is soooo annoying. My daughter graduates this year, too. Fortunately, her school is pretty small, so when I asked her about getting tickets for us, she gave me a very blank look... "Tickets, we don't need tickets...?" confused
I had to explain the whole ticket thing to her. One of the few things I haven't had to complain about with the school, we can bring whomever we choose. At the rate the area is growing, this may not be the same thing in another 5-6 years when the next one graduates... sweatdrop
On the downside, the school is so small, they don't offer any of the higher level classes, so she had to go to running start to get classes needed for college.
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:27 pm
Well, the graduation went fine... I was a bit upset with as many open seats that were left. They could have easily given out another 100 tickets and still had room.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:49 pm
Well Hello fellow geezers. Im new here but I can certainly relate to what we're going on about. I was pretty much about to give up on Gaia here because the kids today do NOT know how to talk to an adult. When I tell them my age, most kids here actually say EWWWW and Im like, I wish I could smack you! I tell them hey, someday you will be 35 and I hope somebody says EWW to you then!
What do I remember? Well, I've been obsessed with computers since they first came out and I got my Commodore Vic-20 (35859 bytes free ... I think) I DO remember life before a microwave, making canned ravioli in a POT on the STOVE. I remember when toys were made of wood, or even (gasp) metal! You could get something pretty cool in a cereal box, like a ring or a little figurine. You could save up your upc symbols and get something neat like a ball or a kite or a toy car (metal).
As to discipline, I think I got spanked about 5 times in my life, but I gotta tell u, they were not a little swat on the bottom like kids get now (and parents get called abusers for!). My dad or mom sat me down and talked sternly to me about why I was wrong to do what I did, then they turned me over their knee and gave me a paddling. To this very day I can honestly say they were terrific parents and I always loved them and I NEVER felt that I was abused, and I would have defended them strenuously had anyone ever made that accusation! These people are crazy and this generation of wild, undisciplined, disrespectful, even criminal children is proof of it. *whew*
By the way I tend to rant.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:03 pm
Hey, I liked your rant. I don't agree, of course, being pretty firmly against capitol punishment in all its forms, but it was still a darn good rant.
Then again, I don't have kids, so what do I know, right?
I don't even work for Child Protective Services, although I'm supposed to make referrals to them since they're just upstairs from me in the same building. Of course, I don't really have any GUIDELINES to work from, I'm just supposed to somehow know what abuse is. Personally, I think it's horrible to see kids below the age of five get yanked by one arm and hauled two or three feet up in the air while their angry mom or dad drags them along for blocks and blocks. A few feet I might understand, to get the kid somewhere out of the way where you can have a quick conversation, but, I mean, twelve blocks? I can't figure out how the flabby-armed lady kept the howling kid aloft for so long in the first place.
Also, the kid had some pretty suspicious bruises and the lady had provided some pretty questionable documentation, so I reported her. Still no reports back, however.
Tough thing about spanking, from a county employee point of view, is that there IS NO GUIDELINE for it. You just have to use your own judgement.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:44 am
Sounds like you were looking at a true case of abuse, not just a parent giving a scolding to a child that involved spankings.
I would have to agree about a good spanking when needed... not a beating. Draging a child by the arm is not called for, and if you talk to my friend, she would get crazy about it because she accidently dislocated one of her kids sholders because of playing with him and lifting him by one arm... but hauling a kid like that is abuse without need to question it. Also, scolding a child with spankings should never leave bruises... EVER, bruises bring it to the abuse level. I know there are too many people out there that do not know the difference or how to not cross the border from scolding to abuse, but there are also too many kids today that would have been a lot better off with a few SIMPLE spankings.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:52 pm
Well Im glad u respect my position even if you dont agree with it. The difference, I think, between abuse and discipline is the reason it is done. I was spanked on those few occassions, because my parents wanted to teach me right from wrong, and by the way they did use other methods as well with me and all my brothers and sisters. If you're angry that is not the time to administer discipline. Why the heck would somebody drag their kid 12 blocks by the arm? And yes, I agree that it should not bruise the child. A paddling on the bottom doesnt permanantly harm the child at all it just burns a good bit wink
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:04 pm
I HATE it when I see parents yanking their kids arms. evil
Also, when I was little I was very naughty and lied alot...so my mom spanked me so hard with the paddle that it broke in half!
Guess what?
She bought another one and glued them together. xp
And yet I survived!
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:52 pm
rolleyes Ah... you're not helping, dear.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:55 pm
You are next Harbone. See you in two months for your Corporal Punishment. rofl
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:38 pm
Ewwww... you're gonna got it now.... twisted
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