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 Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:51 pm
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TeaDidikai Collowrath Eh, didn't mean that you were per se, I just wanted to bring it up and apologize in case I had frustrated you at some point. I half protested Gho's claiming of me as a... I think the term used was guide. Apparently I get drafted into the role because I'm so ******** mouthy and opinionated.
Honestly, you have a lot more wisdom than you probably think you do, and I really want you to find a place to be ok with that. |
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:55 pm
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Fiddlers Green Strangely enough, I have leaned more from re-examining what I have lost, than from what is before me. Ultimately, tho, I have come to the conclusion that my own ideals for a better world do not need like mind, they need like action. I am transcending the understanding of conversion. It is losing it's relevance. The world I wish to live in is one were actions, rather than allegiances are telling. Then again, some allegiances may script ones actions...
But the fact is, not all are going to get "it." All have the potential to, but many are going to be focused on other aspects of their life, and if these things give them joy and spread joy around them, what can I complain about? I see different understandings leading to the same conclusions all the time. When we focus on conversion, we abandon the substance of Chrsitianity for it's literation. We build a nation of Christians in name, but have very Christians in heart. |
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:01 pm
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CuAnnan I'm going to chime in on this one. I realise the flyting is over and done with and that the OP has admitted their mistake and apologised (however insincere I may find the apology), I believe this bears mentioning.
Quote: Calling it arrogance is linguistically fine, I agree. However, if we use the term "Prideful" we get to the root of the matter. Pride (as opposed to pride) is a sin. It is a seperation of one's self from his fellow man and placing one's self above them. In doing so, one is leaving grace. They are automatically violating the LoA by saying "I am better than you". See James 4.6 for scriptural support. There are other scriptural supports but I don't have them to hand any more.
Quote: That site and, in particularl, the posting of the link were not just arrogant, they were Prideful.
Quote: I question the validity of the covenant. If we look at this from a legalistic point of view, then in order to enter into a contract you need to be of sound mind, capable of understanding the terms and capable of giving consent.
Quote: Also, you have to look at whether or not the covenant is being honoured or even acknowledged by the other "signatories".
Quote: AngryRobotsInc. I feel...spiritually dead, within the Catholic faith specifically, Christian faith in general. I felt empty too. Actually, more than empty, I felt hollowed.
Gho the Girl Further, you're one of the only people I know who not only will engage me in philosophical discussions about Yeshua and Agape,
Quote: you've also got the knack for challenging me in wonderful ways.
Quote: Honestly, you have a lot more wisdom than you probably think you do, and I really want you to find a place to be ok with that. |
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:24 pm
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:17 am
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:03 am
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TeaDidikai CuAnnan I'm going to chime in on this one. I realise the flyting is over and done with and that the OP has admitted their mistake and apologised (however insincere I may find the apology), I believe this bears mentioning. What about it seems insincere?
The fact that it came after large amounts of arguing the righteousness and that she apologised for our feelings and not her actions.
She has not accepted the wrong doing.
Quite frankly, I resent having my feelings apologised for. I don't apologise for them so I don't really take other people apologising for them well.
TeaDidikai Good point. Also, I believe I mentioned Matt 25 as well. He did not know those "Righteous" men, and cast them into hell.
Pridefulness is a sin I have actually taken an interest in. While I don't actually subscribe to sin, I do see Pridefulness as damaging to the Self, even if only by sabotaging the ability to properly Self-check.
TeaDidikai This part I contest. Ignoring that applying human law to divine beings may well be a Straw Man, it is perfectly legal for an Adult guardian to enter a minor into a contract.
The Adult guardian is responsible, not the child, for any violations.
TeaDidikai This much I'll grant you. The issue then comes in when we examine the fact that mortal time frames may not be that of the gods.
Indeed. It's why I recommend reconcilliation over the "protection from another god" route.
Not really. Like I say to most Christians, I get a sense for what their Covenant brings them. Being surrounded by that in mass and feeling nothing at all was a very upsetting thing for a child. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:45 pm
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TeaDidikai Gho the Girl TeaDidikai I'm okay with my "wisdom". I'm uncomfortable with being viewed as a teacher/mentor etc. in ways I didn't sign up for. Alright. I'll respect that. I won't ask why, since it's probably none of my business. From now on, you're a friend who I have a lot of respect for, and will sometimes turn to, as friends will do. I don't mind telling you why. I take teaching and mentoring as a very serious responsibility, and I want to be able to live up to the standards thereof. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:32 am
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:08 am
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Collowrath TeaDidikai Collowrath Eh, didn't mean that you were per se, I just wanted to bring it up and apologize in case I had frustrated you at some point. I half protested Gho's claiming of me as a... I think the term used was guide. Apparently I get drafted into the role because I'm so ******** mouthy and opinionated. You're pretty ******** helpful, if I do say so myself. Especially when it comes to helping me sort out my own native faith. Sometimes your comments on Double Faith have a way of... turning on the light in a dark room for me.
Double Faith? |
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:23 am
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Aino Ailill Collowrath TeaDidikai Collowrath Eh, didn't mean that you were per se, I just wanted to bring it up and apologize in case I had frustrated you at some point. I half protested Gho's claiming of me as a... I think the term used was guide. Apparently I get drafted into the role because I'm so ******** mouthy and opinionated. You're pretty ******** helpful, if I do say so myself. Especially when it comes to helping me sort out my own native faith. Sometimes your comments on Double Faith have a way of... turning on the light in a dark room for me. Double Faith?
It's a Slavic concept- basically when the Slavs converted to Christendom, the early stages were not quite monolateralistic, but instead just added another god to the local pantheon. Cultural practices were applied equally to YHVH's traditions as they were to the other gods.
He has a Pathways thread up. I'd look at that if I were you. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:36 am
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TeaDidikai Aino Ailill Collowrath TeaDidikai Collowrath Eh, didn't mean that you were per se, I just wanted to bring it up and apologize in case I had frustrated you at some point. I half protested Gho's claiming of me as a... I think the term used was guide. Apparently I get drafted into the role because I'm so ******** mouthy and opinionated. You're pretty ******** helpful, if I do say so myself. Especially when it comes to helping me sort out my own native faith. Sometimes your comments on Double Faith have a way of... turning on the light in a dark room for me. Double Faith? It's a Slavic concept- basically when the Slavs converted to Christendom, the early stages were not quite monolateralistic, but instead just added another god to the local pantheon. Cultural practices were applied equally to YHVH's traditions as they were to the other gods. He has a Pathways thread up. I'd look at that if I were you.
I will, thank you. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:07 pm
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