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 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:15 am
patch99329 HONESTLY, I'm not gonk . This was the original post, I thought I had written something close but it is slightly different, no better though : ' i think the early druid cult made human sacrifice,but the romans stop it.because it was yuck an this is where guy fawkes comes from.' No more crack for them!
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:27 am
TeaDidikai patch99329 HONESTLY, I'm not gonk . This was the original post, I thought I had written something close but it is slightly different, no better though : ' i think the early druid cult made human sacrifice,but the romans stop it.because it was yuck an this is where guy fawkes comes from.' No more crack for them! This guy is actually based in england too. At this time of year we have thousands of different documentaries and things about guy fawkes. Anyway, It's okay, he was only a FEW centuries out, y'know. xd
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:38 am
Directed at Me at the very least let me say, though you may call yourselves wiccan I can't help it. I always find this s**t funny.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:14 am
Worst thing to say as a Pagan...
"I hate nature."
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:29 am
Fan+asmagoric Worst thing to say as a Pagan... "I hate nature." Why is this a bad thing to say? Being Pagan does not always equal anything related to nature.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:31 am
PhantomPhoenix0 Fan+asmagoric Worst thing to say as a Pagan... "I hate nature." Why is this a bad thing to say? Being Pagan does not always equal anything related to nature. Actually- I know this one gal who I love dearly- any time she sees a bug she points at it and yells "NATURE!" and her husband comes over and squashes it. rofl
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:34 am
TeaDidikai PhantomPhoenix0 Fan+asmagoric Worst thing to say as a Pagan... "I hate nature." Why is this a bad thing to say? Being Pagan does not always equal anything related to nature. Actually- I know this one gal who I love dearly- any time she sees a bug she points at it and yells "NATURE!" and her husband comes over and squashes it. rofl *Insert witty remark here* I'd still like to know why saying "I hate nature" makes you a bad Pagan though. or does she mean peagan?
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:45 am
PhantomPhoenix0 TeaDidikai PhantomPhoenix0 Fan+asmagoric Worst thing to say as a Pagan... "I hate nature." Why is this a bad thing to say? Being Pagan does not always equal anything related to nature. Actually- I know this one gal who I love dearly- any time she sees a bug she points at it and yells "NATURE!" and her husband comes over and squashes it. rofl *Insert witty remark here* I'd still like to know why saying "I hate nature" makes you a bad Pagan though. or does she mean peagan?Now now. I can understand how someone who's only understanding of the pagan scene comes from pop-pagan Witch-in-a-Week sources would confuse pagan with tree hugging hippies.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:07 am
TeaDidikai PhantomPhoenix0 TeaDidikai PhantomPhoenix0 Fan+asmagoric Worst thing to say as a Pagan... "I hate nature." Why is this a bad thing to say? Being Pagan does not always equal anything related to nature. Actually- I know this one gal who I love dearly- any time she sees a bug she points at it and yells "NATURE!" and her husband comes over and squashes it. rofl *Insert witty remark here* I'd still like to know why saying "I hate nature" makes you a bad Pagan though. or does she mean peagan?Now now. I can understand how someone who's only understanding of the pagan scene comes from pop-pagan Witch-in-a-Week sources would confuse pagan with tree hugging hippies. Whoa now... I realize not everyone is into herbology and gardening... For me personally, if I would be ashamed of myself if I said "I hate nature." I find nature very fascinating and full of intrigue. Throughout my life, nature has helped me define my life, without it, I would not be the same person. And for the record, I am not a "tree hugging hippy." And I am not a witch, so don't claim that I only understand pagan culture from "pop-pagan Witch-in-a-week sources." You know nothing about me, so your assumptions are not justified. Granted, yes, there is a lot I don't know, but I didn't join this guild to be flamed. I joined to learn more. I also realize that the term Pagan covers many different beliefs.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:22 pm
Fan+asmagoric For me personally, if I would be ashamed of myself if I said "I hate nature." I find nature very fascinating and full of intrigue. Throughout my life, nature has helped me define my life, without it, I would not be the same person. Understandable, but you put down that it makes you a bad Pagan to say so. You even say that Pagan covers many different beliefs, but saying that "I hate nature" is a bad thing to say as one, it lumps us all into the Pop-Wicca scene, which not many of us would like. Fan+asmagoric And I am not a witch, so don't claim that I only understand pagan culture from "pop-pagan Witch-in-a-week sources." You know nothing about me, so your assumptions are not justified. With all due respect, I saw a new person posting in the guild saying that hating nature makes you a bad Pagan. It raised an instant red flag as something that a fluffy pop-Wiccan would say (and believe me, I've seen my share). You've said that you aren't, I'll remember it in the future. Fan+asmagoric Granted, yes, there is a lot I don't know, but I didn't join this guild to be flamed. I joined to learn more. I'll admit, what I said was a bit close to harsh, but it wasnt a flame, nor would I consider it anywhere near one. I'm a naturally hostile person, and an a*****e at times. It doesnt mean I'm attacking you though. Fan+asmagoric I also realize that the term Pagan covers many different beliefs. Then why say it makes you a bad Pagan if you dont like nature?
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:47 pm
Fan+asmagoric TeaDidikai PhantomPhoenix0 TeaDidikai PhantomPhoenix0 Fan+asmagoric Worst thing to say as a Pagan... "I hate nature." Why is this a bad thing to say? Being Pagan does not always equal anything related to nature. Actually- I know this one gal who I love dearly- any time she sees a bug she points at it and yells "NATURE!" and her husband comes over and squashes it. rofl *Insert witty remark here* I'd still like to know why saying "I hate nature" makes you a bad Pagan though. or does she mean peagan?Now now. I can understand how someone who's only understanding of the pagan scene comes from pop-pagan Witch-in-a-Week sources would confuse pagan with tree hugging hippies. Whoa now... I realize not everyone is into herbology and gardening... For me personally, if I would be ashamed of myself if I said "I hate nature." I find nature very fascinating and full of intrigue. Throughout my life, nature has helped me define my life, without it, I would not be the same person. And for the record, I am not a "tree hugging hippy." And I am not a witch, so don't claim that I only understand pagan culture from "pop-pagan Witch-in-a-week sources." You know nothing about me, so your assumptions are not justified. Granted, yes, there is a lot I don't know, but I didn't join this guild to be flamed. I joined to learn more. I also realize that the term Pagan covers many different beliefs. I think the main point was that not all Pagan religions are nature-based, especially when you go with the broader definition of the word "Pagan". Granted, the delivery wasn't necessarily the most tactful, but I wouldn't take it as a personal attack. The guild members here tend to be pretty quick about shredding any inaccuracies that pop up (that being a major component of "fluffy rehabilitation"), and if you're not familiar with serious source-citing, logic-wielding discussion it can seem a little rough at first. The people here are some of the most aggressive debaters I've ever known, and I've learned a lot just by reading and following along. My advice for a newcomer? Read, post, give people the benefit of the doubt when they criticize you, and you may grow to like it. /off topic "Is that a Maypole in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" wink -stolen from this website.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:59 pm
PhantomPhoenix0 Fan+asmagoric For me personally, if I would be ashamed of myself if I said "I hate nature." I find nature very fascinating and full of intrigue. Throughout my life, nature has helped me define my life, without it, I would not be the same person. Understandable, but you put down that it makes you a bad Pagan to say so. You even say that Pagan covers many different beliefs, but saying that "I hate nature" is a bad thing to say as one, it lumps us all into the Pop-Wicca scene, which not many of us would like. Fan+asmagoric And I am not a witch, so don't claim that I only understand pagan culture from "pop-pagan Witch-in-a-week sources." You know nothing about me, so your assumptions are not justified. With all due respect, I saw a new person posting in the guild saying that hating nature makes you a bad Pagan. It raised an instant red flag as something that a fluffy pop-Wiccan would say (and believe me, I've seen my share). You've said that you aren't, I'll remember it in the future. Fan+asmagoric Granted, yes, there is a lot I don't know, but I didn't join this guild to be flamed. I joined to learn more. I'll admit, what I said was a bit close to harsh, but it wasnt a flame, nor would I consider it anywhere near one. I'm a naturally hostile person, and an a*****e at times. It doesnt mean I'm attacking you though. Fan+asmagoric I also realize that the term Pagan covers many different beliefs. Then why say it makes you a bad Pagan if you dont like nature? To answer your last question, the circle of Pagans I know and spend time with offline are very nature based. While I realize that there are many different groups that fit under the umbrella term of Pagan, my lack of offline contact with leads me to forget that not all Pagans are nature based. And I apologize if I came across the wrong way. My intention was not to make other types of Pagans "bad." And yes, it probably would have been better for me to have introduced myself to the guild before posting. I don't blame you or hold anything against you for pulling up the mental red flag.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:07 pm
mute_coyote Fan+asmagoric TeaDidikai PhantomPhoenix0 TeaDidikai Actually- I know this one gal who I love dearly- any time she sees a bug she points at it and yells "NATURE!" and her husband comes over and squashes it. rofl *Insert witty remark here* I'd still like to know why saying "I hate nature" makes you a bad Pagan though. or does she mean peagan?Now now. I can understand how someone who's only understanding of the pagan scene comes from pop-pagan Witch-in-a-Week sources would confuse pagan with tree hugging hippies. Whoa now... I realize not everyone is into herbology and gardening... For me personally, if I would be ashamed of myself if I said "I hate nature." I find nature very fascinating and full of intrigue. Throughout my life, nature has helped me define my life, without it, I would not be the same person. And for the record, I am not a "tree hugging hippy." And I am not a witch, so don't claim that I only understand pagan culture from "pop-pagan Witch-in-a-week sources." You know nothing about me, so your assumptions are not justified. Granted, yes, there is a lot I don't know, but I didn't join this guild to be flamed. I joined to learn more. I also realize that the term Pagan covers many different beliefs. I think the main point was that not all Pagan religions are nature-based, especially when you go with the broader definition of the word "Pagan". Granted, the delivery wasn't necessarily the most tactful, but I wouldn't take it as a personal attack. The guild members here tend to be pretty quick about shredding any inaccuracies that pop up (that being a major component of "fluffy rehabilitation"), and if you're not familiar with serious source-citing, logic-wielding discussion it can seem a little rough at first. The people here are some of the most aggressive debaters I've ever known, and I've learned a lot just by reading and following along. My advice for a newcomer? Read, post, give people the benefit of the doubt when they criticize you, and you may grow to like it. /off topic "Is that a Maypole in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" wink -stolen from this website. I read some of the posts before sending my request to join. I think reading and participating in debates backed up by cited information is a really powerful way to become aware of other ideas and perspectives. And so far, this guild is more intense than any other forum I've seen on Gaia. It would be a shame to see the level of intellect and critical response drop to the level of the GD (which I highly doubt will happen...). Back on topic... "Is that a Maypole in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" That's hilarious! rofl
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:53 pm
For the record, while it's pretty to look at, I don't care much for nature at all...
I like my computer. *hugs computer*
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:36 pm
PirateEire For the record, while it's pretty to look at, I don't care much for nature at all... I like my computer. *hugs computer* I hear ya. We have a saying in my family. "Being a G~ is only fun until you run out of clean underwear."
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