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PrayThatThisEnds

I guess I can admit I was wrong, but no worries. 3nodding

EDIT: I was not lying, but I was goign off of the knowledge I had at the time.

I tend to perceive suggesting that the same method works for everyone a lie.

Especially when one has already been told twice, in a separate thread and in the present thread, that theistic or theistic esk methods will not work for a given person due to being philosophically forbidden within their path.  

[CuAnnan]

PrayThatThisEnds

Once again, I suggest that everyone ehre tries the LBRP.

The LBRP has no context within the Gaelic worldview.
The LBRP has no context within the greater Celtic worldview.
The LBRP, in fact, has no context outside of CM
Claiming that everyone try it without understanding their paths and what they entail is tantamount to ignorance of the highest magnitude.
I suggest you shut the frell up, listen more and talk less.

PrayThatThisEnds

Why not follow in the footsteps of those gone before?

Because I am not of their culture and they are not subject to the same prohibitions and cultural taboos as I am.
Would you frelling stop with the gods damned ignorance.
You are a frelling novice lecturing Priests, Magoi and Acolytes of traditions you don't even begin to understand, forgive me if I don't buy what you're selling.
You don't understand the magic system you recommend, otherwise you would not be recommending it to those that dislike Tetragrammaton  

[TeaDidikai]

PrayThatThisEnds

I was not lying, but I was goign off of the knowledge I had at the time.

Actually- when you said "I never said everyone should do the LBRP," and contrast that with when you said "Once again, I suggest that everyone ehre tries the LBRP", that is a lie.  

[CuAnnan]

TeaDidikai

PrayThatThisEnds

I was not lying, but I was goign off of the knowledge I had at the time.

Actually- when you said "I never said everyone should do the LBRP," and contrast that with when you said "Once again, I suggest that everyone ehre tries the LBRP", that is a lie.

"Everyone should try this Pizza," PrayThisEnds announced to the room.
"But I'm a coeliac", commented one person.
"I'm allergic to tomatoes", commented another.
"I can't stand cheeze", yet again another.
"Only if it has anchovies", yet again another.
"Only if it has bacon and sausage", yet again another.
"Only if it has no fish and is Kosher", yet again another.
"Only if its Hallal", another.
"Only if it's got peppers", another.
"I'm a vegetarian", another.
"I'm a vegan", another.
Show me the Pizza that covers all those.  

[Recursive Paradox]

The eternal topping pizza paradox?  

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CuAnnan

TeaDidikai

PrayThatThisEnds

I was not lying, but I was goign off of the knowledge I had at the time.

Actually- when you said "I never said everyone should do the LBRP," and contrast that with when you said "Once again, I suggest that everyone ehre tries the LBRP", that is a lie.

"Everyone should try this Pizza," PrayThisEnds announced to the room.
"But I'm a coeliac", commented one person.
"I'm allergic to tomatoes", commented another.
"I can't stand cheeze", yet again another.
"Only if it has anchovies", yet again another.
"Only if it has bacon and sausage", yet again another.
"Only if it has no fish and is Kosher", yet again another.
"Only if its Hallal", another.
"Only if it's got peppers", another.
"I'm a vegetarian", another.
"I'm a vegan", another.
Show me the Pizza that covers all those.

Don't forget lactose intolerance! ninja  

[TeaDidikai]

CuAnnan

TeaDidikai

PrayThatThisEnds

I was not lying, but I was goign off of the knowledge I had at the time.

Actually- when you said "I never said everyone should do the LBRP," and contrast that with when you said "Once again, I suggest that everyone ehre tries the LBRP", that is a lie.

"Everyone should try this Pizza," PrayThisEnds announced to the room.
"But I'm a coeliac", commented one person.
"I'm allergic to tomatoes", commented another.
"I can't stand cheeze", yet again another.
"Only if it has anchovies", yet again another.
"Only if it has bacon and sausage", yet again another.
"Only if it has no fish and is Kosher", yet again another.
"Only if its Hallal", another.
"Only if it's got peppers", another.
"I'm a vegetarian", another.
"I'm a vegan", another.
Show me the Pizza that covers all those.

I think I can do this with just half of a pizza.

The Vegan, the vegitarian, Kosher, coeliac, anti-tomato, anti-cheese and pepper person can eat a gluten free- vegan kosher pizza without cheese and tomato and the other half of the pizza can be made with hallal, bacon sausage and anchovies. 3nodding  

[maenad nuri]

Not going to work tea, Hallal (thought I've always seen it spelled like halal) forbids the pigs. There goes bacon and sausage. And possibly anchovies, as some fish are forbidden.  

[TeaDidikai]

maenad nuri

Not going to work tea, Hallal (thought I've always seen it spelled like halal) forbids the pigs. There goes bacon and sausage. And possibly anchovies, as some fish are forbidden.

Oh damnit. I'm thinking of Hallah.

~shakes fist~ Islamic version of Kosher. Got it.

In that case, a vegan-gluton free crust all around and the Hallal person can eat the vegan side too.  

[CuAnnan]

TeaDidikai

maenad nuri

Not going to work tea, Hallal (thought I've always seen it spelled like halal) forbids the pigs. There goes bacon and sausage. And possibly anchovies, as some fish are forbidden.

Oh damnit. I'm thinking of Hallah.

~shakes fist~ Islamic version of Kosher. Got it.

In that case, a vegan-gluton free crust all around and the Hallal person can eat the vegan side too.

No, fraid not.
Contamination occurs between halves of the pizza when it cooks.
The oil in the cheese melts contaminating both sides with everything that's on either.  

[Deoridhe]

PrayThatThisEnds

Once again, I suggest that everyone ehre tries the LBRP.

"The Pentagram is a powerful symbol representing the operation of the Eternal Spirit nd the Four Elements under the divine Presidency of the letters of the Name Yeheshuah"

I'm dedicated to the Norse/Germanic gods.

Somehow, I imagine the god of the Hebrews would NOT be happy at me using his rituals. Also, I would not be happy to step into a field where I do not feel at home.

One of the first things I dropped when I began calling myself Asatru was the LBRP-style corner calls of many neo-pagan groups.  

[PrayThatThisEnds]

the LBRP can be substitiued to fit your path, with whatever symbols you like.

The Star Ruby uses inverted pentagrams.

Wiccan LBRP:
http://www.ecauldron.net/wiccanlbrp.php

Olympic version of the LBRP:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos546.htm

And there are many others.

But, you know, do what you will... But i don't see why everyone is so dense on NOT doing something that may benefit them.  

[CuAnnan]

PrayThatThisEnds

the LBRP can be substitiued to fit your path, with whatever symbols you like.

I have tried being patient and I have tried being nice.
Now you get impatient crabby Wing.
Next comes pissed off irritable Wing.

No.
It can't.
There is NO CONTEXT for the LBRP within the Gaelic world view.
There is NO CONTEXT for the LBRP within the greater Celtic world view.
There is NO CONTEXT for the LBRP outside of Ceremonial Magic.

PrayThatThisEnds

The Star Ruby uses inverted pentagrams.

The Star Ruby employ Ceremonial Magic.

PrayThatThisEnds

Wiccan

Wicca employs Ceremonial Magic.

PrayThatThisEnds

And there are many others.

That employ Ceremonial Magic.

PrayThatThisEnds

But, you know, do what you will... But i don't see why everyone is so dense on NOT doing something that may benefit them.

Shut the ******** up.
You are a child trying to lecture adults.
I have been practicing my path for nearly a decade now.
There is NO context for the LBRP within my religion or the magic that is employed within my path and attempting to claim that there is amounts to saying you know more about my path and the paths of everyone here better than I and, respectively, they do.
You are an ignorant mewling babe and when you grow up you'll be reminded of your behaviour here and you will be embarrassed and deeply ashamed.
You have already shamed yourself.
I just look forward to the day where you're grown up enough to realise what an a*****e you're being.  

[maenad nuri]

PrayThatThisEnds

But, you know, do what you will... But i don't see why everyone is so dense on NOT doing something that may benefit them.

Because for many of us -- in the context of our religons and beliefs and our gods, it doesn't fit. It just don't work for us, for them, or at least our perceptions of them.

Just don't fit. I have others that do. No big deal. You are the one stating that we all should be doing them.  

[PrayThatThisEnds]

maenad nuri

PrayThatThisEnds

But, you know, do what you will... But i don't see why everyone is so dense on NOT doing something that may benefit them.

Because for many of us -- in the context of our religons and beliefs and our gods, it doesn't fit. It just don't work for us, for them, or at least our perceptions of them.

Just don't fit. I have others that do. No big deal. You are the one stating that we all should be doing them.

Well, if thats their choice, then so be it - I never knew broadening horizons was a bad thing, but apparently it is... or something to that effect.

Shut the f**k up.
You are a child trying to lecture adults.
I have been practicing my path for nearly a decade now.

Yes, I am 18.
Second, just because you practice a path for a decade does not mean that other ways are not effected, and should not be tested. If somebodty asked me to try something, by hell, i'd do it. Just tp see if it works or not or if its beneficial to MY well-being. The System itself is of no importance, only the contesxt.

But I guess thats a ceremonial magic thing, those cursed practioners. lol

As for the record, i still do not understand why some of you are so rigid - yes, follow a path, yes, do what you geel you must, seek after what the past masters sought, but since then do you refuse to not do something as simple as try a different banishign ritual?

I mean come on now. Its not like its going to curse your room for aeons because you dedicated it to some other pagan god.

But whatever....

I guess I shall be leaving and sticking witht he like-minded, but i will alwyas have a jaded view of pagans and neo-pagans, and i admit that is probably my fault, not yours.

After all, we never look at ourselves as the source of the problem/anger, we always blame others. Myself included.

LVX,
Fr.L.e.L.

PS.

You are an ignorant mewling babe and when you grow up you'll be reminded of your behaviour here and you will be embarrassed and deeply ashamed.
You have already shamed yourself.

Ignorance? Yes, I am ignorant of pagan paths, i am clearly CM magician. Nothign wrong with that, and god forbid i try to convince others to try something new here. I clearly have no knowledge of paganism, and do not know a few things about my own. What shame is there in that?

I think there is more shame in being quick to anger. Do you respond like this to everyone who suggests people try the LBRP?

s**t, if you dont want to do it, then DON'T. Nobody here does - fine, I see that. But you being quick to anger is far more shameful then being ignorant. Ignorance can be cured easily. Quick emotional disturbances like that? Especially when the debate is over?

That, I think, is more shameful.