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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:36 pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:42 pm
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Angra-Mainyu LoS Hang on. Aren't there other schools of thought about the nature of evil within Catholic theology? but it does not seem to mesh with the view of God that believers have. From what I can see, Aquinas is really the main theologian in Catholicism.
How can it be the main theologian if the believers don't believe it? Surely the religion is what those who practice it say it is, not what people studying it say it is.
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:54 pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:55 pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:31 pm
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:57 am
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Angra-Mainyu and_solo_said But religions change because of what the church believes. What are you implying? Official churches generally define the faith of that church.
Yes, but consider how the Catholic church has changed due to the believers and the outside world. A god who condones war is now thought of as evil, but in the crusades, it was considered the most holy thing to do to fight infidels, and god supported you.
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:47 am
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:20 am
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Shadow of an Illusion Crew
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:50 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:09 am
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:39 am
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Angra-Mainyu and_solo_said Yes, but consider how the Catholic church has changed due to the believers and the outside world. A god who condones war is now thought of as evil, but in the crusades, it was considered the most holy thing to do to fight infidels, and god supported you. No it is not. Roman Catholicism still supports the use of Just War. What you have have is the RC Church reassessing its interpretation and exegesis in light of world opinion if it believes it is in its best interests [even that is controversial seeing as the Vatican II was highly disliked by some], but it is not subject to the whim of outsiders [it, in fact, holds the other view and the Vatican is the sole authority]. I fail to see the relevence. You questioned the use of the Aquinian model of God in Roman Catholic theology when I mentioned that it does not marry with the opinions of believers [who are not theologians]. The basic point is that the mainstream RC approach to God comes from the works of Aquinas. Later theologians like Luther and Calvin disagreed and different churchs and theologies came about as a result [incidently, both these schools use the everlasting God inside time]. My statement: the mainstream model of God used in Roman Catholic theology is that as written by St Thomas Aquinas despite the opinions of indiviual believers [Cf. the RC teaching on birth control and the view of rank-and-file Catholics]. [Even Benedict XVI is reported to be Augustinian Thomist but he is a Thomist nevertheless.] Maybe the theologians should think of Yahwah as "God of the Believers" and not "God of the Philosophers" but I'm not in their position.
pwned, Owen.
rolleyes
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:01 pm
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Shadow of an Illusion Crew
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:25 am
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:21 pm
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:08 am
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