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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:17 am
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Todd186 Rellik San Todd186 " Television Censorship I am a large promoter of freedom of speech and artistic freedom. HOWEVER. I believe sexual content should be censored. Not on porn channels, mind you, as those are PayPerView 99% of the time anyways. Nudity is okay. Nude people are fine. However, whenever anything involves sex it is ALWAYS hardly realistic. So I would say "sex only if it's realistic, and shows consequences", but that isn't about to happen." Yes I agree completely. It's just a naked body, I don't know what the big deal is. It's the same for everyone. No one wants to see realistic sex... ever. 15 minutes of a guy pumping away, fumbling around, the getting sweaty, the girl needing to pee in the middle of itm, the panting, the girl looking disinterested, getting cramp, the finnish, blue balls, the panting, no cuddling, throwing the covers off and deciding you need a cold shower because of how hot and sticky you are...... consequences involve changing the bed sheets because they are sweaty and sticky and not fun to sleep in. Those are the consequences of sex.
I know, I was only reffering to the nudity. I don't think there should be realistic sex, and the way they have it now is fine. But the whole covering up the body thing, I think it's rediculous. It's just a naked body. It's natural. So I don't know why people say it's such a bad thing.
However, where exactly does perversion begin? Some people, like with drugs or drinking, can become addicted. Studies on the male brain show this can be very unhealthy, and infact, some killers actually started out by becoming mentally unstable by being too obsessed with porn (BTK as an example, and many killers who stalk, rape, and kill women). Also, naked bodies, to young children who do not understand, can bring about one grabbing another and other obscene and rather sad and embarassing things in public, which will lead to the questioning of the parents. Look at how many rape victims there are, illegi. children, single parents. If you put an image of a naked body infront of someone, you are basically saying to them, "let your imagination do the rest". Not only that, I doubt there are many really good decent parents who are addicted to porn or allow their children to be exposed to adult nudity at certain ages.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:23 am
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lurichan TheVampireLirel Actually, I think society is more open towards sex this century than the last. I mean, just the other day some girls who sit behind me in class where having a very open discussion on it. I think you are right, our society now is much more talkative about it then back even say 100 years ago. Around the time of the victorian era it was exceedly taboo to talk about to the point of being rediculous. I mean seeing ankle was considered sexual, and they put those little frills on the furniture because they didn't want men to see leg in any form and get ideas. -_-* It's a good thing that people talk about sex in a heathy way now instead of having people surpress their every urge to the point of lunacy. Most of the reason sex became such a hush hush subject is because of the christian view on sex as something to be done only in marriage and only as a form of procreation. -_-* Thankfully woman's liberation and the advent of the birth control pill and condom have made great strides in changing things. Some christian purists still have skewed views on sex, but overall society has become much less closed minded about the topic.
Keep in mind, there are plently of good reasons for this point of view. Also, it is not just about having kids, but as a way of showing love and surrendering to your parter. Husbands are ordered in the Bible to submit to their wives, and wives to their husbands. Sex is the most intimate really that people can get, one body being connected to another, and two people being so close in a way that maybe only the other will ever get to see. It is ment to form strong families and relationships between the father and mother. Also, it does, in a way, encourage the two married people stay together to take care of a house hold, take care of each other, and to take care of and raise their children.
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Angel of the End lurichan TheVampireLirel Actually, I think society is more open towards sex this century than the last. I mean, just the other day some girls who sit behind me in class where having a very open discussion on it. I think you are right, our society now is much more talkative about it then back even say 100 years ago. Around the time of the victorian era it was exceedly taboo to talk about to the point of being rediculous. I mean seeing ankle was considered sexual, and they put those little frills on the furniture because they didn't want men to see leg in any form and get ideas. -_-* It's a good thing that people talk about sex in a heathy way now instead of having people surpress their every urge to the point of lunacy. Most of the reason sex became such a hush hush subject is because of the christian view on sex as something to be done only in marriage and only as a form of procreation. -_-* Thankfully woman's liberation and the advent of the birth control pill and condom have made great strides in changing things. Some christian purists still have skewed views on sex, but overall society has become much less closed minded about the topic. Keep in mind, there are plently of good reasons for this point of view. Also, it is not just about having kids, but as a way of showing love and surrendering to your parter. Husbands are ordered in the Bible to submit to their wives, and wives to their husbands. Sex is the most intimate really that people can get, one body being connected to another, and two people being so close in a way that maybe only the other will ever get to see. It is ment to form strong families and relationships between the father and mother. Also, it does, in a way, encourage the two married people stay together to take care of a house hold, take care of each other, and to take care of and raise their children. Outside of opening their skin and crawling inside, it's the closest physical intimacy that people can acheive. Emotional intimacy goes beyond sex, and is why people are oftentimes closer to their family and close friends than they are to their significant others.
While sex between people in love greatly reduces the problems that sex can harbor, love is not a requirement for sex.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:03 am
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-Resurrected Writer- Angel of the End lurichan TheVampireLirel Actually, I think society is more open towards sex this century than the last. I mean, just the other day some girls who sit behind me in class where having a very open discussion on it. I think you are right, our society now is much more talkative about it then back even say 100 years ago. Around the time of the victorian era it was exceedly taboo to talk about to the point of being rediculous. I mean seeing ankle was considered sexual, and they put those little frills on the furniture because they didn't want men to see leg in any form and get ideas. -_-* It's a good thing that people talk about sex in a heathy way now instead of having people surpress their every urge to the point of lunacy. Most of the reason sex became such a hush hush subject is because of the christian view on sex as something to be done only in marriage and only as a form of procreation. -_-* Thankfully woman's liberation and the advent of the birth control pill and condom have made great strides in changing things. Some christian purists still have skewed views on sex, but overall society has become much less closed minded about the topic. Keep in mind, there are plently of good reasons for this point of view. Also, it is not just about having kids, but as a way of showing love and surrendering to your parter. Husbands are ordered in the Bible to submit to their wives, and wives to their husbands. Sex is the most intimate really that people can get, one body being connected to another, and two people being so close in a way that maybe only the other will ever get to see. It is ment to form strong families and relationships between the father and mother. Also, it does, in a way, encourage the two married people stay together to take care of a house hold, take care of each other, and to take care of and raise their children. Outside of opening their skin and crawling inside, it's the closest physical intimacy that people can acheive. Emotional intimacy goes beyond sex, and is why people are oftentimes closer to their family and close friends than they are to their significant others. While sex between people in love greatly reduces the problems that sex can harbor, love is not a requirement for sex.
I completely agree. But you can see how it helps alot of couples stay closely bonded emotionally, and how it can also make one appreciate the other a bit more, and how this could be more special especially if each person had not had sexual experiences with other people before. It's a hassel, but for some people, it is really worth it. Also, if someone has not had experiences with other people of that sort, or more like ALOT of those kinds of experiences, chances are that the spouse doesn't really want to hear about it or be compared to other sexual partners. (and again, thank you so much for pointing that out, it's obvious, but for some it is easy to forget ^^; )
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:24 pm
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:57 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:51 am
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tl;dr on the entire thread.
But what I can say are these points.
- No, sex is not dirty.
- Yes, sex is beautiful.
- No, children should not be introduced to it at an early age.
- Sex is seen as something to be handled with care because it's an activity that can lead to great consequences: a. a child - which is usually something unwanted in the case of teen pregnancy; and is something far too great for ones so young to bear. b. STDs - many of which have little to no symptoms; or are untreatable; or are fatal; and are just downright embarrassing.
- I also saw someone bashing the whole abstinence thing saying that they would like to know what they're getting into when they marry a person. No, I have not waited for marriage, but there is a great beauty to doing so. In an ideal world we would all wait, some of you might disagree, but I haven't said what's so beautiful about waiting. A man and a woman, both virgins, get married. They've never been with anyone else, so they have no one to compare their mate to. They may both be terrible, but they get to learn together and grow together and become better together. The fact that I'm going to miss out on that journey with whoever I marry makes me wish I had waited. Alas.
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