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Shadow__Dweller Esoteric Order of Dagon Shadow__Dweller Vampire lockk I have a huge selection of vampires that I absolutely love. Each one for many different reasons. The reason I think vampires how become popular again is because there are lots of book series and movie series that have been coming out in the last couple years that have a huge fan base. Twilight I'm sure is a big part of it, but I don't think that it's the only reason. Vampire books have been around for ages though, so why is it just now that people are finding them more popular? People are actually reading. Notice how the shelves are now filled with "teen vampire romance"? Publishers are hoping to make a buck and a half off the new Twitlight phenomena. Hopefully, when the last movie gets made, this whole thing will blow over. Yeah you're right. Whenever I go to try and find a suitably decent "gothic style" book or a vampire novel all I can find are loads of teen romances or adult erotic romances....can't anyone write a decent vampire novel that isn't for the sole purpose of being romantic or erotic? I don't know. All the good vampire books are always the older ones. I've not yet found a good recent vampire book.
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:37 pm
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Vampiric_will Shadow__Dweller Esoteric Order of Dagon Shadow__Dweller Vampire lockk I have a huge selection of vampires that I absolutely love. Each one for many different reasons. The reason I think vampires how become popular again is because there are lots of book series and movie series that have been coming out in the last couple years that have a huge fan base. Twilight I'm sure is a big part of it, but I don't think that it's the only reason. Vampire books have been around for ages though, so why is it just now that people are finding them more popular? People are actually reading. Notice how the shelves are now filled with "teen vampire romance"? Publishers are hoping to make a buck and a half off the new Twitlight phenomena. Hopefully, when the last movie gets made, this whole thing will blow over. Yeah you're right. Whenever I go to try and find a suitably decent "gothic style" book or a vampire novel all I can find are loads of teen romances or adult erotic romances....can't anyone write a decent vampire novel that isn't for the sole purpose of being romantic or erotic? I don't know. All the good vampire books are always the older ones. I've not yet found a good recent vampire book.
I've found several good vampire detective/film noir style stuff, and some of it is recent. Some of them have sex, but its brief and not part of the plot (and as such I do not call it a romance book, in which the plot or a significant portion of the plot is about the romance)
There is also a lot of Urban fantasy that, while not strictly vampires, lends itself well in lue(I haven't the slighted how this word should be spelt) of a good vampire book.
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:12 pm
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Shadow__Dweller I prefer modern vampire novels to old one. In the old ones they are always the horror monsters that are very inhuman, and I like the modern vampires who just immortal humans. I like how they are a representation of all the subconscious sins that we actually want to commit. I also like their sexiness. I like the urban vampire rather than the one who lives in a castle and looks like a bat. However, I don't like Twilight. That's just pathetic teen romance. My favourite vampire novels are Anne Rice's. I adore the pyschology behind her characters and she is the mother of the modern vampire in today's culture. Bram Stoker may have created the very first vampire from old folk tales that already existed, but it is Anne Rice who created the vampire as we see it today. She has taken the myths and themes that Stoker just touched upon and really emphasized them, such as the sexuality and outsider appeal of the vampire and applied it to our modern world. I love how she even thinks of the pyschology of the characters; she has put herself in the mind of a vampire and considered how they would actually feel rather than just making them a simple monster that drinks blood.
Actually, Bram Stoker 's novel is the parent of Anne Rice and all subsequent vampire novels. Yes, his vampire was evil, but Dracula was not a Zombie, which is what vampires ARE in folk lore. Blood/chi sucking zombies. They're really very lame. Peasants just scare easy.
Also, Anne Rice's vampire 'rules' or 'mechanics' are heavily influenced by Stoker. The exchange of blood was from Stokers mythos, as was the sunlight bit. Dracula could also awaken during the day, and sunlight was only a discomfort, not death. ALSO the staking did not kill him either, it was the removal of the head. The staking only facilitated removing the head.
I like the more modern books better as well, but only if they are done right. I also DON'T like it when vampires are "inherently evil" or are adversely effected by holy symbols. I like them better when they are like viral predators.
Ironically,vampires as we know them today have alot more in common with werewolves. They're more like werewolf succubi/incubui that do not turn into beasts.
Finally, Bram Stoker was a moron. He did very incomplete research (vampires bats are very small, and he put in his book that they were abnormally large) Vlad Ţepeş (Tsepesh) Dracula (Which is Romanian for Son of the devil or dragon, because his father was Vlad Dracul(Dragon) and a member of the order of the dragon) Prince of Walachia had NO influence on Bram stokers book other than he came across the name Dracula meaning son of the dragon in a book.
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:55 am
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Storm Daughter Shadow__Dweller I prefer modern vampire novels to old one. In the old ones they are always the horror monsters that are very inhuman, and I like the modern vampires who just immortal humans. I like how they are a representation of all the subconscious sins that we actually want to commit. I also like their sexiness. I like the urban vampire rather than the one who lives in a castle and looks like a bat. However, I don't like Twilight. That's just pathetic teen romance. My favourite vampire novels are Anne Rice's. I adore the pyschology behind her characters and she is the mother of the modern vampire in today's culture. Bram Stoker may have created the very first vampire from old folk tales that already existed, but it is Anne Rice who created the vampire as we see it today. She has taken the myths and themes that Stoker just touched upon and really emphasized them, such as the sexuality and outsider appeal of the vampire and applied it to our modern world. I love how she even thinks of the pyschology of the characters; she has put herself in the mind of a vampire and considered how they would actually feel rather than just making them a simple monster that drinks blood. Actually, Bram Stoker 's novel is the parent of Anne Rice and all subsequent vampire novels. Yes, his vampire was evil, but Dracula was not a Zombie, which is what vampires ARE in folk lore. Blood/chi sucking zombies. They're really very lame. Peasants just scare easy. Also, Anne Rice's vampire 'rules' or 'mechanics' are heavily influenced by Stoker. The exchange of blood was from Stokers mythos, as was the sunlight bit. Dracula could also awaken during the day, and sunlight was only a discomfort, not death. ALSO the staking did not kill him either, it was the removal of the head. The staking only facilitated removing the head. I like the more modern books better as well, but only if they are done right. I also DON'T like it when vampires are "inherently evil" or are adversely effected by holy symbols. I like them better when they are like viral predators. Ironically,vampires as we know them today have alot more in common with werewolves. They're more like werewolf succubi/incubui that do not turn into beasts. Finally, Bram Stoker was a moron. He did very incomplete research (vampires bats are very small, and he put in his book that they were abnormally large) Vlad Ţepeş (Tsepesh) Dracula (Which is Romanian for Son of the devil or dragon, because his father was Vlad Dracul(Dragon) and a member of the order of the dragon) Prince of Walachia had NO influence on Bram stokers book other than he came across the name Dracula meaning son of the dragon in a book.
Yes I know that Stoker created the vampire in fiction although it already existed in myths. But Anne Rice took it a step further and modernised them. The modern vampire we see today is very different than Stoker's Dracula, and that's why I think Anne Rice is the creator of the "modern" vampire. she was influenced by Dracula but she took it to a whole new level in a way which vampires had never been thought of before. Never had we truly seen what it's like to be a vampire..what their emotions and thoughts are..we just saw them as monsters. She put them in a modern world and gave them modern pyschology...things Stoker couldn't have dreamt of. The vampires we see on TV and in books today are more like Anne Rice's vampires, dealing with modern things that we as humans actually deal with.
I guess vampires are so popular because they represent an outsider trying to fit into society...and all humans feel that they don't "fit in" in some way or another. They also represent our sexual desires or addictions...vampires are often linked to drug addicts. You could even associate them with people who are trying to lose weight but can't resist the food. They appeal to us in so many ways because we can see ourselves in them.
Twilight is for teens who have a romantic idea of being in love with someone who is broodying and dark and who says lovely romantic things but has no personality lol. Stephanie Meyers takes all the adult sexuality and violence out of the vampires because it's meant for teens, so she has to soften them, making them sparkle and feed off animals. This is what spoils her books because the violence and sexuality are the main things about vampires!
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