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sal riddle

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:06 pm


I like the twighlight series up to a point, but there are many more books that are a thousand times better. it all depends on your tastes. get a library card and reant it and if you love it, buy it.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:03 pm


I'd recommend it to overly sentimental middle and high school-ers who have a passing interest in "vampires", enjoy not having to think about life's problems or maturity, and appreciate being dominated by their frighteningly controlling boyfriends.

PetreyDish


Todd186

PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:27 am


Once you start reading it. You can't stop unless you find it is a complete disgrace. It is a good book and series. However, if you look at the books individually and the storyline just as it is, then it's really not that great.
It's a good read on a boring day.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:04 am


PetreyDish
I'd recommend it to overly sentimental middle and high school-ers who have a passing interest in "vampires", enjoy not having to think about life's problems or maturity, and appreciate being dominated by their frighteningly controlling boyfriends.

Shut up and get back into the cubbard.

Xahmen


dark and demented

PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:32 pm


Oooohkay because I feel the need to contribute an opinion on this topic here it goes.


As has been said before one can only judge a book once they have read it. Therefore I would not advice anyone to forgo reading the novel because any dislike they express for it comes from secondhand sources and is invalid. Watching the movie and forming an opinion really shouldn't count either, buuut who am I to judge since I've done the same thing.

Now! Onto my opinions.
Stephenie Meyer has a smooth flowing style of writing and I think her strong point is in singular novels. Case and point: The Host. In my opinion, the novel was really well written and the storyline compelling. It took obvious influence from body invading aliens, however as seems to be Stephenie's style she added a certain flair.
Twilight its self was, as has been said, the "classic" angsty love story filled with star-crossed lovers who aren't supposed to love each other, but do anyways. They can never be together, blah, blah, blah. Very Romeo and Juliet-esque. So it is no surprise that it has captured the hearts of females of all ages across the globe (men as well, but to a lesser degree it seems). As a singular novel it can hold it's own because the novel is relatively easy to read with the vocabulary level held at a minimum.

As I stated earlier, the first novel is eerily parallel to Romeo and Juliet. In fact, reading all four of the novels the parallels to other romantic classics such as Wuthering Heights, Pride and Prejudice are stunning. Not to mention that Stephenie Meyer admitted in an interview [I can't seem to find my source for this >.<, I'll keep looking for it] that she was heavily influenced by these novels and for each of her books she was emmulating a different classic.

This isn't a crime, but personally I find it incredibly vexing that the similarities are soooo obvious. Having read the classics and the saga more than once the jumps in plot line, extreme changes in character personalities make sense when this is taken into account. Before I made the connection between all of these novels it just seemed like terrible writing and a horrid plot line in books two, three, and four. However, taking into consideration that she was practically copying different books for each novel it makes sense.

Overall, I'm not a fan and I don't think the series deserves the fame it has received, but I'm not surprised that it has.

Annnnyways...responses?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:33 pm


That turned out longer than I expected...o_o


xD oh well.

dark and demented


PetreyDish

PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:30 am


To be honest, I found little similar between Twilight and Romeo and Juliet. I did notice that Meyer repeatedly compares the two works, which seemed to be-at times-shallow and mostly unnecessary.

Then again, I have not read the play in quite some time.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:47 am


the author of the Twilight took a lot of things from already written books, as I mentioned (somewhere) from vampire kisses too. Its just sad that you need to create something already created but you need to write it like you are targeting on mental retards. I'll never understand the book, but the marketing did hell-a-good job on it. thumbs up for that.

Nik Ballion


lola_siannodel

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:10 pm


PetreyDish
To be honest, I found little similar between Twilight and Romeo and Juliet. I did notice that Meyer repeatedly compares the two works, which seemed to be-at times-shallow and mostly unnecessary.

Then again, I have not read the play in quite some time.

(I'm going to continue my ranting, out of boredom, and for the lawlz, so expect excessive bold lettering)

That's the thing...Meyer seemed to miss the point of Romeo and Juliet. Romeo and Juliet were not in love, they were in lust, and the idea was to show the faults in the whole "Love conquers all, young love, soul mates" kinda deal. She says her work captures true love, and points out Romeo's faults, explaining that if Romeo left you, big whoop, but if Edward did, of course your first reaction would be suicide. He's perfect. Again, missing the point of a tragedy. And the same goes for all these other classic romances. She misses the point entirely. These angsty romances where not describing ideal love, they where saying love is a myth. On top of that, Bella and Edward's romance was never really "Forbidden" as much as "Dangerous", and it wasn't even that. In order to be a forbidden love, it would mean that if you get caught, your in trouble. Not there's a risk of him hurting you. That's just angsty or abusive love.

Twilight is just some fluffy wet dream where the guy has no intended faults, and the author tells us things about the character, but rarely shows it (Bella is supposed to be mature, smart, and clumsy, while she comes of as immature, whiny, and stupid, and her clumsiness is only referenced and is only there to make her cute, and is thus not a real flaw) Edward is, according to the author in several interviews (You know, the ones where she says she would leave her husband who she never loved for Edward, and how she knows "true love"...yeah) absolutely perfect, and how any girl would fall for him. Every girl deserves a guy as perfect as him, and a relationship like in Twilight. Problem is, Edward comes off more like a repressed, pretentious p***k, and their relationship seems more like an unhealthy and controlling one rather than twu luv.

I guess the main reason I despise the books is simply that any justification for the books many and glaring flaws (Like I used to justify Bella's constant gushing over Edward as a representation of what all girls do when their in love) is ruined by the author pretty much saying either "Nah, it's totally meant just like I wrote it" or "No, that's not a flaw. That's totally a mature and level headed thing to do". It doesn't help that she's also a complete idiot who should have never been given a podium to express her views on love when she's enamored with her own characters and only married because "She had to! She's a woman!", and Bella is just her only skinnier, younger, and almost all the guys in her school love her immediately (Though she treats them like dirt). It's so glaringly obvious that it's just her living out her fantasies, at least Host seems decent, and was written for the sake of writing a story (Though I haven't read Host just yet, so I can't judge.)
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:04 am


if you're a fan of using the English language properly (not misusing words, not overusing words and such) then no, don't waist your time or your money. If you want a good laugh, or can look past such things then knock yourself out. although i might suggest borrowing it from a friend or something like that first.
personally i don't like it and can suggest any number of good books to you, but hey to each his own right.

Milo-Bveyele


Milo-Bveyele

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:08 am


lola_siannodel
PetreyDish
To be honest, I found little similar between Twilight and Romeo and Juliet. I did notice that Meyer repeatedly compares the two works, which seemed to be-at times-shallow and mostly unnecessary.

Then again, I have not read the play in quite some time.

(I'm going to continue my ranting, out of boredom, and for the lawlz, so expect excessive bold lettering)

That's the thing...Meyer seemed to miss the point of Romeo and Juliet. Romeo and Juliet were not in love, they were in lust, and the idea was to show the faults in the whole "Love conquers all, young love, soul mates" kinda deal. She says her work captures true love, and points out Romeo's faults, explaining that if Romeo left you, big whoop, but if Edward did, of course your first reaction would be suicide. He's perfect. Again, missing the point of a tragedy. And the same goes for all these other classic romances. She misses the point entirely. These angsty romances where not describing ideal love, they where saying love is a myth. On top of that, Bella and Edward's romance was never really "Forbidden" as much as "Dangerous", and it wasn't even that. In order to be a forbidden love, it would mean that if you get caught, your in trouble. Not there's a risk of him hurting you. That's just angsty or abusive love.

Twilight is just some fluffy wet dream where the guy has no intended faults, and the author tells us things about the character, but rarely shows it (Bella is supposed to be mature, smart, and clumsy, while she comes of as immature, whiny, and stupid, and her clumsiness is only referenced and is only there to make her cute, and is thus not a real flaw) Edward is, according to the author in several interviews (You know, the ones where she says she would leave her husband who she never loved for Edward, and how she knows "true love"...yeah) absolutely perfect, and how any girl would fall for him. Every girl deserves a guy as perfect as him, and a relationship like in Twilight. Problem is, Edward comes off more like a repressed, pretentious p***k, and their relationship seems more like an unhealthy and controlling one rather than twu luv.

I guess the main reason I despise the books is simply that any justification for the books many and glaring flaws (Like I used to justify Bella's constant gushing over Edward as a representation of what all girls do when their in love) is ruined by the author pretty much saying either "Nah, it's totally meant just like I wrote it" or "No, that's not a flaw. That's totally a mature and level headed thing to do". It doesn't help that she's also a complete idiot who should have never been given a podium to express her views on love when she's enamored with her own characters and only married because "She had to! She's a woman!", and Bella is just her only skinnier, younger, and almost all the guys in her school love her immediately (Though she treats them like dirt). It's so glaringly obvious that it's just her living out her fantasies, at least Host seems decent, and was written for the sake of writing a story (Though I haven't read Host just yet, so I can't judge.)


Here here, i agree, you've said it well. too bad that's only the tip of the iceberg on what's wrong with the series.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:32 pm


I think the thing that disappointed me the most out of the series was that whenever a character faced any sort of moral dilemma, Meyer completely changed the situation so the character didn't have to deal with the problem and had no opportunity for growth.

Not counting the freakishly obsessive Bella or horrifyingly controlling Edward. >>

Also, in the second book Bella was being insane and purposefully putting herself in harm's way to "hear Edward's voice" speaking to her telling her to stop being so idiotic. Was it ever explained why she heard his voice, or was Meyer all "lol Yeah, my Mary Sue is one creepy psycho! =D"?

PetreyDish


cursed user

Witty Elder

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:53 pm


I thought it was quite an admiable saga. I loved all four of the books. The movie, however, couldhave been a tad bit bitter with the acting....Of course, it all has to do with your tastes.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:51 pm


I think Twilight is awesome. It depends on your tastes in vampire novels. I'm completely open-minded to new vampire concepts. My motto is 'it's my story, I can do whatever I want (as long as I'm not breaking any laws).' If you're not, I don't think you'll like it.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:32 pm


The Goth Apple
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it is SOOOO worth it!!! they are amazing books, and i am highly anticipating the release of the movie and forth and fifth books. i haven't met a person to read then and not like them. my whole family is addicted to the whole vampire-werewolf so it is a good series in my opinion if we are all addicted.
Pleasure to meet you. My name is Kathryne, but most people call me Apple on this account.
I'm a writer myself, and I endevor to steal Maeyer's fangirls. Would you like to be stolen?

I lol'd. I lol'd hard.

I know, this is one of those things where I shouldn't be metnioning it, but everyone's noticed it. Every person heavily supporting the books is rather illiterate. Just wanted to throw that out there.

But in all honesty, you may enjoy it. I loved them. However looking back I question how I did, really. You can loose yourself in the plot, but if you are one who reflects upon what you read, prepare to go "What the ********, as I said before, it's definitley worth the time it takes to read the four of them.
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