The Flanderization of Light & Dark?

[TeaDidikai]

Celeblin Galadeneryn

Now can you actually prove that they were a threat to Germans, or should you just start apologising to Tea really, really fast?

Dude. I'm really not in the mood to read Racist Apologetics.

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Might be a good time to point out her family wasn't killed for being Jewish.

Shush. Next thing you know someone might actually have to do research on German History and Genocide. We wouldn't want that now would we?  

[TeaDidikai]

Celeblin Galadeneryn

Hey, it was my turn to be a Jew last week, it's your turn now.

Nope. I only asked to convert once. They'll shoot me down at least two more times. wink

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Education is for closeminded people, duh.

gonk  

[Yanueh]

*facepalm* Oh, duh. I knew Tea was Rroma. How did I forget that...?  

[TeaDidikai]

Celeblin Galadeneryn

At least you're being called a Jew for something slightly more likely than just knowing the nature of Satan.

Oops. Twice. I still have one strike.

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Yeah. Trade in your degrees now, or suffer being the meanest meaner in Meanerton.

I don't know. Stiff competition.  

[Cyrus the Elder]

Celeblin Galadeneryn

TeaDidikai

Celeblin Galadeneryn

Hey, it was my turn to be a Jew last week, it's your turn now.

Nope. I only asked to convert once. They'll shoot me down at least two more times. wink

At least you're being called a Jew for something slightly more likely than just knowing the nature of Satan.

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Education is for closeminded people, duh.

gonk

Yeah. Trade in your degrees now, or suffer being the meanest meaner in Meanerton.

....wait, does this make me the nice guy of the forums? gonk  

[TeaDidikai]

Cyrus the Elder

....wait, does this make me the nice guy of the forums? gonk

Naw. You Win.  

[Yanueh]

Anyhow, then, how does instinct lead to classifying a people as 'undesirable?'

Just as any social animal prefers the company of its own group (the us-group), we usually tend to prefer the company of our own. Strange, outside groups may be competitors for resources. If we don't know their ways, they're unpredictable, and at least in our imaginations, they could do anything.

If someone perceives that they are indeed a threat of some kind, (whether they really are or not) a natural reaction is to try to get rid of them in some way. Of course, one person doesn't stand a chance, so you've got to make sure the rest of the us-group understands that the them-group has to go. If you can paint them as sub-human, as a dangerous, degenerate animal, it's all the easier to get the lynch mob rampaging.

It all boils down to us vs. them.  

[whiporwill-o]

Yanueh

Anyhow, then, how does instinct lead to classifying a people as 'undesirable?'

Just as any social animal prefers the company of its own group (the us-group), we usually tend to prefer the company of our own. Strange, outside groups may be competitors for resources. If we don't know their ways, they're unpredictable, and at least in our imaginations, they could do anything.

If someone perceives that they are indeed a threat of some kind, (whether they really are or not) a natural reaction is to try to get rid of them in some way. Of course, one person doesn't stand a chance, so you've got to make sure the rest of the us-group understands that the them-group has to go. If you can paint them as sub-human, as a dangerous, degenerate animal, it's all the easier to get the lynch mob rampaging.

It all boils down to us vs. them.

this stuck me as incredibly racist...

what was this all about again?  

[Yanueh]

I was trying to demonstrate how simple instinct can influence peoples' morals and actions, for better or for worse. Simple psychology/anthropology.

And I'd like to know how that was racist. stare  

[whiporwill-o]

Yanueh

I was trying to demonstrate how simple instinct can influence peoples' morals and actions, for better or for worse.

And I'd like to know how that was racist. stare

it may have just been the way it read...

don't stare at me like that! gonk  

[TeaDidikai]

Yanueh

Anyhow, then, how does instinct lead to classifying a people as 'undesirable?'

Just as any social animal prefers the company of its own group (the us-group), we usually tend to prefer the company of our own. Strange, outside groups may be competitors for resources. If we don't know their ways, they're unpredictable, and at least in our imaginations, they could do anything.

Of course, this really only works if the assumption is that humans aren't capable of rational examination of the situation.

Hence why applying it to morality is flawed.
Also, it completely fails to address the issues raised in regards to Morality, the abuse of power, the numerous forms of bigotry and applied Eugenics.

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If someone perceives that they are indeed a threat of some kind, (whether they really are or not) a natural reaction is to try to get rid of them in some way. Of course, one person doesn't stand a chance, so you've got to make sure the rest of the us-group understands that the them-group has to go. If you can paint them as sub-human, as a dangerous, degenerate animal, it's all the easier to get the lynch mob rampaging.

It all boils down to us vs. them.

Yep. Just like I said. Racist Apologetics being confused for Morality.

Fun fun.  

[Yanueh]

It was considered a moral thing to do because they perceived themselves as the bastion of all that was right and good in the world, and that it was their sacred duty to wipe out all that was vile and nasty - which was very nearly everyone else.

But when you get down to it, it was nothing more than the us vs. them mentality gone out of control.