An Introduction to Goth music and subculture

[Muffin Stalker Skweekee]

I know one that people commonly mistake as "goth". Marylin Manson (The guy, not the hollywood girl person). He really isn't goth. You really get sick of so-called goths going around saying: "Oh my god! Go Manson! He is SO gothy"  

[Akasha_wp]

skweekee13

I know one that people commonly mistake as "goth". Marylin Manson (The guy, not the hollywood girl person). He really isn't goth. You really get sick of so-called goths going around saying: "Oh my god! Go Manson! He is SO gothy"

To true. But Marylin manson in general is awsome. He's more about additude more than anything.

 

[Isobel Bellamy]

skweekee13

I know one that people commonly mistake as "goth". Marylin Manson (The guy, not the hollywood girl person). He really isn't goth. You really get sick of so-called goths going around saying: "Oh my god! Go Manson! He is SO gothy"

Yeah, it's quite funny watching the kids in my city coo over how he is the embodyment of all that is goth. Bless them, it's quite sweet really, just go over to them and ask what else is goth, them play them some nice good old vintage goth and watch their looks of horror "that's not goth!!" shake your head and walk away muttering "kids today..." very good entertaiment I assure you blaugh twisted  

[Lord_Bathory999]

chick_with_a_chainsaw

im the first to admit that im not goth i would say that for any type of sub culture i am none (as far as i know im bloody hopeless) i listen to bands like slipknot metallica and mudvayne. i do not class myself as anything because nowadays there are to many sub groups. but i do find it interesting reading about gothic music thanks for the info

i know wut that song is duality by
slipknot  

[Lord_Bathory999]

any ways i still cosider cradle of filth gothic ever gone to thier concerts i have and its was awsome  

[Akasha_wp]

Lord_Bathory999

any ways i still cosider cradle of filth gothic ever gone to thier concerts i have and its was awsome

Cradle of Filth is Industrial Metal... I think metal is fast goth rock.

 

[Lord_Bathory999]

Akasha_wp

Lord_Bathory999

any ways i still cosider cradle of filth gothic ever gone to thier concerts i have and its was awsome

Cradle of Filth is Industrial Metal... I think metal is fast goth rock.

do you listen to C.O.F  

[Lord_Bathory999]

i have an "additction" to cradle of filth and they can never ever be industrial metal no way in hell ar they industrial.industrial is more like nine inch nails and they suck thats just my opinion  

[Akasha_wp]

Lord_Bathory999

Akasha_wp

Lord_Bathory999

any ways i still cosider cradle of filth gothic ever gone to thier concerts i have and its was awsome

Cradle of Filth is Industrial Metal... I think metal is fast goth rock.

do you listen to C.O.F

Yeah, I've listened to most of there songs. I almost went to thier concert. I was also crazy about them for a while.
I go on bindges on bands then move on to a new one. Right now it's Apocaliptica.
I was pretty sure it's industrial metal. I only have one song by NIN. Can't judge.

 

[needs a name]

What it sounds like
Real 'Goth' music is very, very poetic, most songs are poetic, rhyming etc etc. but many 'Goth' songs are actually a poem in their own right:

You shouldn't assume everyone knows exactly what goth music is. You should probably inform them about the romanticism and imagery of the lyrics.  

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Freya Silverflame

I think Attrition, Diva Destruction, Dargaard, Dulce Liquido, Cruxshadows and maybe the Mission UK could be considered "Goth"

Most people think Rammstein is goth. While I ADORE them, I think they would go under the "Industrial/EBM" label instead.


And Alice O'Connor, here's from one fellow Jack Off Jill fan to another! *huggle*

The Cruxshadows are considered to be darkwave. A sort of goth/industrial genre, but it's still a sub-genre of goth.  

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[Danthalas]

I like this thread... though the thought of someone calling linkin park 'goth' was... creepy. 'Goth' music personally is Bauhaus and Sisters of Mercy, i like industrial but i dont consider that gothic. Dont get me wrong though, i am totally obsessed with industrial and i do agree it has goth influences to a large degree but trying to compare Tim Skold to Sisters of Mercy... just doesnt happen that easily.  

[Isobel Bellamy]

*twitch* I've actually completed this eek (to a degree), hope you lot like it, my fingers hurt......  

[Mrs. Pink Eyes]

Quote:

Essentials of Darkwave:

* Joy Division - Closer (1980)
* The Cure - Pornography (1982)

Joy Division is more of an early-goth or post-punk essential. Darkwave essential is something by Dead Can Dance.

Why is there a gothic-metal section in a Goth music thread? It makes little to no sense.

PS:
Rozz was more important than Depeche Mode for Goth-Rock, even though he drifted through both.