This is a stupid question but I'm going to ask anyway thread

[CuAnnan]

bondage bunnie

The problem with the definitions is there is only a finite amount of possibilities.

Proof plx.
The current models for the universe provide for an unbound infinite universe. It all depends on some abstract property of the universe at t=0.

bondage bunnie

Time is finite there has only been so much and will only be so much unless it turns inward to form a loop. The number of possibilities may seem limitless, but there are definite limits.

This is also a fallacy.
The many world interpretation of quantum mechanics allows for an infinite diversity even in a bound universe. Whether the probability waves collapse, rendering unmade the universes that could have been they still existed as potential.  

[CuAnnan]

Ultramarine Violet

My ex used to call it the "Tree of Time," when she thought I wasn't listening. I actually kind of like that imagery.

That's very interesting.
That is, likewise, how I refer to it.  

[CuAnnan]

Recursive Paradox

We don't know that at all.

Yes, we do.
The gravity up until after the point of the big bang would have, filling in the Lorentz Scalar, gives us infinite dilation on the time and length front.  

[TeaDidikai]

CuAnnan

Ultramarine Violet

My ex used to call it the "Tree of Time," when she thought I wasn't listening. I actually kind of like that imagery.

That's very interesting.
That is, likewise, how I refer to it.

Is this cultural or personal?  

[CuAnnan]

TeaDidikai

CuAnnan

Ultramarine Violet

My ex used to call it the "Tree of Time," when she thought I wasn't listening. I actually kind of like that imagery.

That's very interesting.
That is, likewise, how I refer to it.

Is this cultural or personal?

Culturally inspired personal take.  

[TeaDidikai]

CuAnnan

Culturally inspired personal take.

Any more detail available?  

[CuAnnan]

TeaDidikai

CuAnnan

Culturally inspired personal take.

Any more detail available?

Sure, remind me some day I'm not bunged up with a cold.  

[FlySammyJ]

Ultramarine Violet

I guess that I completely misunderstood the term, then. whee Thanks.

My haste probably arose from the fact that, well... the idea kind of irritates me. Not the concept, you understand, but the way it thunders around and demands my partial attention for extended periods. I kind of want to either make use of it, or find justification to dismiss it.

The Readers' Digest version of the concept is this: any given instant is the intersection of an infinite number of possible timelines. Infinity x 2, really. An infinite number leading up to the instant, and an infinite number branching off into their respective futures. My ex used to call it the "Tree of Time," when she thought I wasn't listening. I actually kind of like that imagery.

Though, now that I re-read it, it sounds more like fodder for bad sci-fi than anything else.

Can I ask what, in this case, separates UPG from a Cool Idea? I'm used to associating some sort of divinity with Gnosis...am I off track?

I've heard this model of time referred to as the fractal model. I like it a lot (mostly because I think fractals are the s**t), but I've always been strongly drawn toward cyclical models, and lately holographic ones.  

[TeaDidikai]

demisara

Can I ask what, in this case, separates UPG from a Cool Idea? I'm used to associating some sort of divinity with Gnosis...am I off track?

Slightly. Gnosis specifies a Spiritual Truth. Atheists can have Gnosis that derives from something other than a deity.  

[FlySammyJ]

TeaDidikai

demisara

Can I ask what, in this case, separates UPG from a Cool Idea? I'm used to associating some sort of divinity with Gnosis...am I off track?

Slightly. Gnosis specifies a Spiritual Truth. Atheists can have Gnosis that derives from something other than a deity.

The divine need not incorporate a deity (in my book). Why is the nature of time a spiritual truth?  

[TeaDidikai]

demisara

The divine need not incorporate a deity (in my book).

Fair enough. Either way- you can come up with a concept that is not divine, but is still Gnosis.

Quote:

Why is the nature of time a spiritual truth?

You'd have to ask them.  

[FlySammyJ]

TeaDidikai

demisara

The divine need not incorporate a deity (in my book).

Fair enough. Either way- you can come up with a concept that is not divine, but is still Gnosis.

Quote:

Why is the nature of time a spiritual truth?

You'd have to ask them.

So what's the difference between UPG and an epiphany?  

[Recursive Paradox]

CuAnnan

Recursive Paradox

We don't know that at all.

Yes, we do.
The gravity up until after the point of the big bang would have, filling in the Lorentz Scalar, gives us infinite dilation on the time and length front.

Oh. Well crap. Could I have a source to add to my physics bookmarks for that?  

[CuAnnan]

Recursive Paradox

CuAnnan

Recursive Paradox

We don't know that at all.

Yes, we do.
The gravity up until after the point of the big bang would have, filling in the Lorentz Scalar, gives us infinite dilation on the time and length front.

Oh. Well crap. Could I have a source to add to my physics bookmarks for that?

Here ya go  

[Recursive Paradox]

CuAnnan

Recursive Paradox

CuAnnan

Recursive Paradox

We don't know that at all.

Yes, we do.
The gravity up until after the point of the big bang would have, filling in the Lorentz Scalar, gives us infinite dilation on the time and length front.

Oh. Well crap. Could I have a source to add to my physics bookmarks for that?

Here ya go

Thanks!