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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:14 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:28 pm
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Neko_Bast well...........I see you like to make people look stupid. I'm sorry you feel the need to be more correct than others.
Eleanor Roosevelt said: "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."
Bottom line- Reagun is right. Why is he right? Because he knows what he is talking about due to years of study and Initiation.
Quote: Sanctified has bad connotations to me. I just don't like it. I would rather used words like sacred or consecrated. (yes, I know they are part of the deffinition)
Quote: As for what is the differece between them, it is the Mystery. That is quite obvious.
It's also very obvious that there is more to it than just the Mystery aspect. This isn't even basic Wicca 101, it's Basic Invocation 101. Which is a major source of the conflict in the thread. |
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:01 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:24 pm
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:26 am
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Neko_Bast well...........I see you like to make people look stupid.
I really wish I could take credit for that. Truly I do. However, I did not put words in your mouth. I did not make it look like you said those things, you said them. I corrected you in as nice a manner as I could. If your world is so fragile that you can't take corrections, then you'd best wrap yourself in cotton wool and never leave your house again.
Neko_Bast I'm sorry you feel the need to be more correct than others.
This is a binary set up. Right or Wrong. There is no in between here.
Neko_Bast Sanctified has bad connotations to me.
Like I said, I am not to be held responsible for your inferrances.
Neko_Bast As for what is the differece between them, it is the Mystery. That is quite obvious.
So.... how can you have performed the rite if you don't know and understand the mysteries?
Neko_Bast I'm not going to go into the whole ritual just for this tread. In every Great Rite, or if you must, hieros gamos; you call on the Goddess and the God.
Stop right there. The Hieros Gamos is not equatory to the Great Rite. The Great Rite is a form of Hieros Gamos. A square is a form of rectangle. See where this is going?
Neko_Bast The names that are called might be different but the Gods are necessary for the ritual. The participants are, to the best of their ability, making themselves channels for the divine on all levels, physical to spiritual.
Not "the Gods". The Lord and Lady of Wicca. Only the Lord and Lady of Wicca. Any other deities and it's not the Great Rite, it may be Heiros Gamos, but not neccessarily |
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:42 am
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reagun ban Neko_Bast well...........I see you like to make people look stupid. I really wish I could take credit for that. Truly I do. However, I did not put words in your mouth. I did not make it look like you said those things, you said them. I corrected you in as nice a manner as I could. If your world is so fragile that you can't take corrections, then you'd best wrap yourself in cotton wool and never leave your house again. Neko_Bast I'm sorry you feel the need to be more correct than others. This is a binary set up. Right or Wrong. There is no in between here. Neko_Bast Sanctified has bad connotations to me. Like I said, I am not to be held responsible for your inferrances.
rofl
reagun ban Neko_Bast As for what is the differece between them, it is the Mystery. That is quite obvious. So.... how can you have performed the rite if you don't know and understand the mysteries?
oh.....wait.......I forgot, you don't believe I can know the mysteries..... rolleyes
reagun ban Neko_Bast I'm not going to go into the whole ritual just for this tread. In every Great Rite, or if you must, hieros gamos; you call on the Goddess and the God. Stop right there. The Hieros Gamos is not equatory to the Great Rite. The Great Rite is a form of Hieros Gamos. A square is a form of rectangle. See where this is going?
duh.......
reagun ban Neko_Bast The names that are called might be different but the Gods are necessary for the ritual. The participants are, to the best of their ability, making themselves channels for the divine on all levels, physical to spiritual. Not "the Gods". The Lord and Lady of Wicca. Only the Lord and Lady of Wicca. Any other deities and it's not the Great Rite, it may be Heiros Gamos, but not neccessarily
again.....duh.....although, they will usually call on Gods
Herios Gamos:Wikipedia means a coupling (sometimes marriage) of a god and a man or a woman, often having a symbolic meaning and generally conducted in the spring. It is an ancient ritual in which participants believed that they could gain profound religious experience through sexual intercourse. Participants assumed characteristics of deities, often channeling the deities in question, and by their union provided symbolic and literal fertility for themselves, the land, and their people. |
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:40 am
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:43 am
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:53 am
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:01 am
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:48 pm
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quantum_leaper reagun ban quantum_leaper Sorry was there an original counter arguement buried somewhere in that last post? Who was that directed at man? Me or Neko? Neko, A total of 20 words(not counting smileys) not saying anything of worth doesnt exaclty could as a counter to an arguement...
Neko? Have you looked into the concept of Logical Fallacies yet? |
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:34 pm
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TeaDidikai quantum_leaper reagun ban quantum_leaper Sorry was there an original counter arguement buried somewhere in that last post? Who was that directed at man? Me or Neko? Neko, A total of 20 words(not counting smileys) not saying anything of worth doesnt exaclty could as a counter to an arguement... Neko? Have you looked into the concept of Logical Fallacies yet?
(this is to all three)
quantum_leaper.......If you look I'm not really arguing, I was agreeing.
TeaDidikai..........On the logical fallacies, I wasn't appealing to authority because to commit that fallacy my statement would have to come from someone out of their field. Check out the site.
Reagun.......would you really stop questioning me if I told you the sacred names of the God and Goddess? |
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:18 am
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:42 pm
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