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 Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:41 pm
Grumpy Paradox Let's just make this clear. Unlike Magic the Gathering and several other CCGs, Yugioh does NOT have the Golden Rule. The Golden Rule being what you are talking about, a card text > the rulebook. So you're in full support of this first turn, blue eyes OTK? If that is the case, why don't we all do it? Attack on the first turn that is. The card effect requires something that is not available on the first turn.
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:50 pm
Grumpy Paradox Let's just make this clear. Unlike Magic the Gathering and several other CCGs, Yugioh does NOT have the Golden Rule. The Golden Rule being what you are talking about, a card text > the rulebook. The "golden rule" does exist in yu-gi-oh. HOWEVER, there is no battle phase on the first turn, so if a monster is given the ability to attack directly on the first turn by delta attacker, it cannot seeing as the player cannot enter the phase needed to do so.
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:54 pm
A Dog of Chaos SOLIDNSNAKE wow i cant believe this is still getting posts in it. ok i understand i made a mistake (granted i still think im right) but chill guys. it was just a simple statement and as someone said there are card games that say the cards override the rules so delta attackers "you CAN attack your opponent directly" i thought gave me the permission to attack (as i said i still think im right but apparently the rulings are stupid. like the whole exodia thing someone stated earlier) No battle phase on the first turn is not a "ruling", but a rule. So regardless of how you feel about the "rulings", you are wrong. whatever the point is yugioh doesnt have the rule "card beats rules" when i did it they basically said the card gives the permission to do so. since yugioh doesnt have the rule stated before iit doesnt happen it cant which is stupid in my oppinion but hey whatever. now i undertstand that for whatever reason yugioh doesnt follow that so i know it doesnt work. besides it was an extremely lucky draw.i havent gotten it since.
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:57 pm
A Dog of Chaos Grumpy Paradox Let's just make this clear. Unlike Magic the Gathering and several other CCGs, Yugioh does NOT have the Golden Rule. The Golden Rule being what you are talking about, a card text > the rulebook. So you're in full support of this first turn, blue eyes OTK? If that is the case, why don't we all do it? Attack on the first turn that is. The card effect requires something that is not available on the first turn. You misread.
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:00 pm
Grumpy Paradox A Dog of Chaos Grumpy Paradox Let's just make this clear. Unlike Magic the Gathering and several other CCGs, Yugioh does NOT have the Golden Rule. The Golden Rule being what you are talking about, a card text > the rulebook. So you're in full support of this first turn, blue eyes OTK? If that is the case, why don't we all do it? Attack on the first turn that is. The card effect requires something that is not available on the first turn. You misread. Sorry, n00bs frustrate me which causes me to be more n00bish than I already am.
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:02 pm
Zero Hiru Grumpy Paradox Let's just make this clear. Unlike Magic the Gathering and several other CCGs, Yugioh does NOT have the Golden Rule. The Golden Rule being what you are talking about, a card text > the rulebook. The "golden rule" does exist in yu-gi-oh. HOWEVER, there is no battle phase on the first turn, so if a monster is given the ability to attack directly on the first turn by delta attacker, it cannot seeing as the player cannot enter the phase needed to do so. i think it would if yugioh had thye golden rule. because like with penguin soldier when you flip it it says you can you are given the choice to so i think for this card you would indeed be able to go into it if you chose to. i mkean certain cards make it to where you have to skip phases so i see this as it should GIVE you the battle phase. but look i understand that it cant happen (i think it should but whatever) and i see a few people agree and alot of people disagreeing.
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:37 pm
SOLIDNSNAKE Zero Hiru Grumpy Paradox Let's just make this clear. Unlike Magic the Gathering and several other CCGs, Yugioh does NOT have the Golden Rule. The Golden Rule being what you are talking about, a card text > the rulebook. The "golden rule" does exist in yu-gi-oh. HOWEVER, there is no battle phase on the first turn, so if a monster is given the ability to attack directly on the first turn by delta attacker, it cannot seeing as the player cannot enter the phase needed to do so. i think it would if yugioh had thye golden rule. because like with penguin soldier when you flip it it says you can you are given the choice to so i think for this card you would indeed be able to go into it if you chose to. i mkean certain cards make it to where you have to skip phases so i see this as it should GIVE you the battle phase. but look i understand that it cant happen (i think it should but whatever) and i see a few people agree and alot of people disagreeing. But the fact is it doesn't give you the battle phase the first turn. End of story, good bye, let this board die.
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:10 pm
SOLIDNSNAKE Zero Hiru Grumpy Paradox Let's just make this clear. Unlike Magic the Gathering and several other CCGs, Yugioh does NOT have the Golden Rule. The Golden Rule being what you are talking about, a card text > the rulebook. The "golden rule" does exist in yu-gi-oh. HOWEVER, there is no battle phase on the first turn, so if a monster is given the ability to attack directly on the first turn by delta attacker, it cannot seeing as the player cannot enter the phase needed to do so. i think it would if yugioh had thye golden rule. because like with penguin soldier when you flip it it says you can you are given the choice to so i think for this card you would indeed be able to go into it if you chose to. i mkean certain cards make it to where you have to skip phases so i see this as it should GIVE you the battle phase. but look i understand that it cant happen (i think it should but whatever) and i see a few people agree and alot of people disagreeing. Rulebook v7.1, p.44 Rules vs. Card Effects arrow If there is a discrepancy between the basic rules and a card’s effect, the card effect takes precedence. For example, a monster can only attack once per turn, but with a card effect, it is possible to attack twice. Proof that there is a "golden rule" in yu-gi-oh. Oh, and here's a double whammy for you all: Rulebook v7.1, p.31 Start StepThis step starts the Battle Phase. The turn player should announce “I’m entering the Battle Phase." IMPORTANT: The
player who goes first cannot conduct a Battle Phase in their very first turn.
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Jevan R. H. Divinitive Crew
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:09 am
Basically:
1. The golden rule exists;
2. Delta Attacker lets you attack directly when you battle;
3. You cannot battle on turn 1 of the duel unless a card is created that lets you create a Battle Phase.
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:16 am
Jevan R. H. Divinitive Basically: 1. The golden rule exists; 2. Delta Attacker lets you attack directly when you battle; 3. You cannot battle on turn 1 of the duel unless a card is created that lets you create a Battle Phase. This. They must have added the golden rule since the last time I read through the booklet (which was about 2004?). While the Delta Attacker card lets you declare an attack directly, it doesn't let you have a battle phase to do so. High five Jevan.
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Jevan R. H. Divinitive Crew
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:58 am
Grumpy Paradox Jevan R. H. Divinitive Basically: 1. The golden rule exists; 2. Delta Attacker lets you attack directly when you battle; 3. You cannot battle on turn 1 of the duel unless a card is created that lets you create a Battle Phase. This. They must have added the golden rule since the last time I read through the booklet (which was about 2004?). While the Delta Attacker card lets you declare an attack directly, it doesn't let you have a battle phase to do so. High five Jevan. Straight from the rule book: Rules vs. Card Effects If there is a discrepancy between the basic rules and a card’s effect, the card effect takes precedence. For example, a monster can only attack once per turn, but with a card effect, it is possible to attack twice. I'll check the original book when I find where I put my old ones. High five!
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:29 am
Jevan R. H. Divinitive Grumpy Paradox Jevan R. H. Divinitive Basically: 1. The golden rule exists; 2. Delta Attacker lets you attack directly when you battle; 3. You cannot battle on turn 1 of the duel unless a card is created that lets you create a Battle Phase. This. They must have added the golden rule since the last time I read through the booklet (which was about 2004?). While the Delta Attacker card lets you declare an attack directly, it doesn't let you have a battle phase to do so. High five Jevan. Straight from the rule book: Rules vs. Card Effects If there is a discrepancy between the basic rules and a card’s effect, the card effect takes precedence. For example, a monster can only attack once per turn, but with a card effect, it is possible to attack twice. I'll check the original book when I find where I put my old ones. High five! Yeah, someone quoted it earlier.
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:28 am
Grumpy Paradox Jevan R. H. Divinitive Basically: 1. The golden rule exists; 2. Delta Attacker lets you attack directly when you battle; 3. You cannot battle on turn 1 of the duel unless a card is created that lets you create a Battle Phase. This. They must have added the golden rule since the last time I read through the booklet (which was about 2004?). While the Delta Attacker card lets you declare an attack directly, it doesn't let you have a battle phase to do so. High five Jevan. well the way it seems to me after reading this is that since card text beat rules. delta attacker says You can only activate this card while there are 3 Normal Monsters of the same name (except Tokens) on your side of the field. The 3 Normal Monsters of the same name can attack your opponent's Life Points directly during the turn that this card is activated. so from that it would allow me to attack. since the no battle phase on the first turn is a rule. and this card lets me attack it would take presidence (pardon my REALLY bad spelling) over the no battle phase and allow me to do so cause the card states the 3 monsters can attack during the turn that this card is activated. thank you gaia friends ^.^
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:20 pm
It let's you attack directly, it doesn't give you a battle phase!
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Jevan R. H. Divinitive Crew
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:51 pm
Jevan R. H. Divinitive It let's you attack directly, it doesn't give you a battle phase! This.
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