Vampires

[Nines19]

UnholyFayth

Also I Had Learned That It As About Training Ones Spirit Which You Take On In The After Life. (Not Hell.) The After World, Life Whatever You Want To Call It, And Also Dividing One's Self From Your Soul Which Is Connected To Emotion.

Example:
Ones Mind/Brain. Determines The Difference Between Right, And Wrong. (Reasoning)
While Ones Soul Determines The Feelings Of Love, Hate, Pain, Etc. (Emotional Attachment.)

When You Leave This Would You Will Take Form In Spirit.

Becoming One With Your Spirit, Learning To Control It, And Making It Stronger In The Journey From The Physical World To The Spiritual.

Again This Is Only What I Was Told, And Tought

This is highly off-topic, but do your pinky fingers get sore a lot?  

[UnholyFayth]

Lol No They Don't For Some Messed Up Reason I Have An OCD Complex With Having To Type This Way, Sorry. ^^  

[Recursive Paradox]

CuAnnan

Recursive Paradox

No. Not even as metaphor. I know that LeVayan Satanism uses vampire as a metaphor to describe what Etherism refers to as Those of The Void, which is basically a social parasite, but there's absolutely no usage of anything even resembling the legends (old or revisionist) of vampires within Etherism.

While I would agree that, in the vast majority of cases, parasites are social in nature there are one or two per hundred that are not.

Direct non mundane energy drain?  

[Deoridhe]

Recursive Paradox

CuAnnan

Recursive Paradox

No. Not even as metaphor. I know that LeVayan Satanism uses vampire as a metaphor to describe what Etherism refers to as Those of The Void, which is basically a social parasite, but there's absolutely no usage of anything even resembling the legends (old or revisionist) of vampires within Etherism.

While I would agree that, in the vast majority of cases, parasites are social in nature there are one or two per hundred that are not.

Direct non mundane energy drain?

I'd agree with Wing on the rarity, but also the existence of these kinds of people. When I'm near them I have the sensation of an event horizon, but no person; that's my instinctive imaging for those people.  

[Adalyna]

This topic always interested me because, I don't believe in vampires, but it gives me a chance to think about how I sound to other people from the outside. I believe in things others consider fictional, vampires just don't happen to be among them. Psychically or socially parasitic people do not truly constitute vampires for me.  

[TeaDidikai]

Deoridhe

Recursive Paradox

CuAnnan

Recursive Paradox

No. Not even as metaphor. I know that LeVayan Satanism uses vampire as a metaphor to describe what Etherism refers to as Those of The Void, which is basically a social parasite, but there's absolutely no usage of anything even resembling the legends (old or revisionist) of vampires within Etherism.

While I would agree that, in the vast majority of cases, parasites are social in nature there are one or two per hundred that are not.

Direct non mundane energy drain?

I'd agree with Wing on the rarity, but also the existence of these kinds of people. When I'm near them I have the sensation of an event horizon, but no person; that's my instinctive imaging for those people.

Had a chance to use what I taught you to see them? I'd be interested in hearing your results.  

[Ainwyn]

TeaDidikai

Celeblin Galadeneryn

TeaDidikai

Celeblin Galadeneryn

My jokes aside, this kind of sheds some light on why modern stories don't portray vampires in a historical way. Besides the history not being what we're used to, it's hard to portray them in the usual getting their asses handed to them by some guy when they're that hard to get rid of.

Also, isn't there one country where it's a black horse.

I don't know... makes for more conflict really.

There's a reason why I like the slow build up of Dracula, which has one of the more traditional killings, but with the (horribly unfortunate) popularity of well, films of the Michael Bay variety, I'm thinking we're going to be seeing more high paced combat in the future.

Not that there's anything wrong with high paced combat, just that the slower conflicts would be nice.

That and I don't know if modern culture would understand Vampire as being removed from Love Interest.

That's the reason I always laugh at my friends who are all into the "OMG vampires are SOOO hawt!!!!" thing. I've started making a huge break in my mind between historical/cultural vampires and fictional vampires though. But even then, I still don't get the Twilight, or Spike and Angel (from Buffy) obsession thing. *shudders*
I love The Historian for that though, because she depicts the vampires as being all gross and puffy.  

[TeaDidikai]

The only thing I can think of when people suggest Vampires = Smexy is "Ewwww... necrophilia!"  

[Violet Song jat Shariff]

UnholyFayth

Vampires Are Indeed Real. It Is A Religion I Have Studied Myself. It's Vampirism. Which Follow Under The Lines Of Instinct, And Survival. Blood Is The Life Source Needed To Survive. Though Receiving Blood From A Blood Bank Is Completely Untrue. Blood In Order To Survive Must Be Consumed From A Live, And WILLING Host, And There Can Be No Consumption Of Enough Blood To Actually Kill The Host "That Is Illegal In The Religion, And As Is The Law" . The Religion Of A Vampire Is A Mostly Underground, And Hidden Religion. There's My Small Intake Of The Thread.

No. Just no.

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The Source Is A Phone Number Of A Very Good Friend Of Mine That Was Born Under The Vampire Ritual, And Works Very Hard In The Religion.

And what kind of authority does your Good Friend have on the "religion" of vampirism?  

[redtearsblackwings]

TeaDidikai

redtearsblackwings

What the hell gives you the right to say that?!

The ability to form rational criticism that is not designed to inspire harm.

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Would you mind not insulting me!

Questioning your justification is not an insult. Saying you're delusional might be, but not asking for your justification.

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You clearly have some kind of problem with me

Not really. I have no emotional investment in you what so ever.

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but I'd really apsciate it if you'd not say things like that. I may be depressed but I'm not delusional.

Being depressed and being delusional are not mutually exclusive.

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http://www.geocities.com/vampiricstudies/psi.html
I hope that works I'm not sure how to use BBC

This really doesn't demonstrate that your assumptions are correct.

I was refuring to you calling me delutional, you have absultly no right to say that. I'd apseate it if you're going to talk about my Mental State you go and get a degree in Psyic or just not say anything.
Nor does it say that they are wrong, it simply says that I'm open to the idea. I never said it was what happens I said it is what I feel is ture.  

[TeaDidikai]

redtearsblackwings

I was refuring to you calling me delutional,

I never said "You're delusional". I asked why you think you're not and I have every right to ask that question. Self delusion is common and you're clearly Willfully Ignorant- aka a Fluffy Bunny.

Since this guild is here to help people like you examine the ways in which you're wrong, asking you to examine why you believe something is real rather than something you made up in your head to make you feel special is a perfectly valid question and it should have a perfectly reasonable answer.
Please provide it.

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I'd apseate it if you're going to talk about my Mental State you go and get a degree in Psyic or just not say anything.

This is what we call Poisoning the Well. I don't need a degree in psych to recognize patterns and issue questions.

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I never said it was what happens I said it is what I feel is ture.

And thus I ask again: What makes you think your opinion is valid and not a personal delusion?  

[Aino Ailill]

TeaDidikai

The only thing I can think of when people suggest Vampires = Smexy is "Ewwww... necrophilia!"

It's a non-decaying (well, when it is the 'smexy' vampire) body that is able to give informed consent. It might be necrophilia but it wouldn't be the same as doing an inanimate corpse.  

[Nines19]

Violet Song jat Shariff

UnholyFayth

Vampires Are Indeed Real. It Is A Religion I Have Studied Myself. It's Vampirism. Which Follow Under The Lines Of Instinct, And Survival. Blood Is The Life Source Needed To Survive. Though Receiving Blood From A Blood Bank Is Completely Untrue. Blood In Order To Survive Must Be Consumed From A Live, And WILLING Host, And There Can Be No Consumption Of Enough Blood To Actually Kill The Host "That Is Illegal In The Religion, And As Is The Law" . The Religion Of A Vampire Is A Mostly Underground, And Hidden Religion. There's My Small Intake Of The Thread.

No. Just no.

Why? There is an actual vampire religion.  

[Violet Song jat Shariff]

Nines19

Violet Song jat Shariff

UnholyFayth

Vampires Are Indeed Real. It Is A Religion I Have Studied Myself. It's Vampirism. Which Follow Under The Lines Of Instinct, And Survival. Blood Is The Life Source Needed To Survive. Though Receiving Blood From A Blood Bank Is Completely Untrue. Blood In Order To Survive Must Be Consumed From A Live, And WILLING Host, And There Can Be No Consumption Of Enough Blood To Actually Kill The Host "That Is Illegal In The Religion, And As Is The Law" . The Religion Of A Vampire Is A Mostly Underground, And Hidden Religion. There's My Small Intake Of The Thread.

No. Just no.

Why? There is an actual vampire religion.

One besides the sort-of religion built up around Edward Cullen?
 

[saint dreya]

Ainwyn

But even then, I still don't get the Twilight, or Spike and Angel (from Buffy) obsession thing. *shudders*

Because David Boreanz is drop dead schmexy! Granted, I prefer his character in Bones much more to anything he ever accomplished in Angel.

redtearsblackwings

I'd apseate it if you're going to talk about my Mental State you go and get a degree in Psyic or just not say anything.

(Vio, I love you for this smiley, blaugh )

Did you not get mad earlier when someone suggested you talk to a counselor/psychiatrist, someone who does have a degree in psych?

redtearsblackwings

Nor does it say that they are wrong, it simply says that I'm open to the idea. I never said it was what happens I said it is what I feel is ture.

Okay, however just because I might feel it is true that this one guy I love and adore secretly admires me and stalks me, doesn't make it true. As Cu put it previously, belief in the face of opposing fact is denying reality.