DB's Ecclectic Christian Heresy. Oaths added.

[rmcdra]

Gho the Girl

rmcdra

Gho the Girl

rmcdra

I like what you have going here. Very nice.

How'd you get in here? surprised

I didn't know you were a member of this guild. heart

I'm special, don't you know that by now razz . I have my ways ninja . Glad to be here too DB and Gho heart .

*huggggggs*

On srs bsns for a sec, can we discuss original sin?

I don't agree with it conceptually, and I'd like your perspective. I know you sent me that exhaustive list I read, so I understand what it is, but I don't agree with it, ya know?

Oh I understand and its alright, you don't have to agree.

Personally to me Original Sin in my tradition would better be explained in the terms of Platonism, you're in the Cave, the light is there casting shadows you see the shadow, you know something is making the shadows but you don't know what it is that makes the shadows. In my tradition Original Sin is just describing being in this state. When you first realize there's a world outside the cave and have seen it's light is when you are free of Original Sin. Yes our original sin definition is quite different from orthodoxy but hey that's heresy for ya. The "blinders" may still be there but you have a better idea on how to reach the target.  

[Gho the Girl]

rmcdra

Gho the Girl

rmcdra

Gho the Girl

rmcdra

I like what you have going here. Very nice.

How'd you get in here? surprised

I didn't know you were a member of this guild. heart

I'm special, don't you know that by now razz . I have my ways ninja . Glad to be here too DB and Gho heart .

*huggggggs*

On srs bsns for a sec, can we discuss original sin?

I don't agree with it conceptually, and I'd like your perspective. I know you sent me that exhaustive list I read, so I understand what it is, but I don't agree with it, ya know?

Oh I understand and its alright, you don't have to agree.

Personally to me Original Sin in my tradition would better be explained in the terms of Platonism, you're in the Cave, the light is there casting shadows you see the shadow, you know something is making the shadows but you don't know what it is that makes the shadows. In my tradition Original Sin is just describing being in this state. When you first realize there's a world outside the cave and have seen it's light is when you are free of Original Sin. Yes our original sin definition is quite different from orthodoxy but hey that's heresy for ya. The "blinders" may still be there but you have a better idea on how to reach the target.

I see.

What of those who go out into the larger world but find different things from you? Basically, is the only way to leave the cave through YHVH or can an Asatru leave the cave?  

[rmcdra]

Gho the Girl

rmcdra

Gho the Girl

rmcdra

Gho the Girl

rmcdra

I like what you have going here. Very nice.

How'd you get in here? surprised

I didn't know you were a member of this guild. heart

I'm special, don't you know that by now razz . I have my ways ninja . Glad to be here too DB and Gho heart .

*huggggggs*

On srs bsns for a sec, can we discuss original sin?

I don't agree with it conceptually, and I'd like your perspective. I know you sent me that exhaustive list I read, so I understand what it is, but I don't agree with it, ya know?

Oh I understand and its alright, you don't have to agree.

Personally to me Original Sin in my tradition would better be explained in the terms of Platonism, you're in the Cave, the light is there casting shadows you see the shadow, you know something is making the shadows but you don't know what it is that makes the shadows. In my tradition Original Sin is just describing being in this state. When you first realize there's a world outside the cave and have seen it's light is when you are free of Original Sin. Yes our original sin definition is quite different from orthodoxy but hey that's heresy for ya. The "blinders" may still be there but you have a better idea on how to reach the target.

I see.

What of those who go out into the larger world but find different things from you? Basically, is the only way to leave the cave through YHVH or can an Asatru leave the cave?

I don't have an answer but it's assumed that whoever the deity is that is the source of that light transcends all other deities. I don't know if my God is YHVH or not but this god meets the description of YHVH and I understand this deity that I follow in terms of YHVH. But I know that there are things about YHVH that don't match up with the God I know. Things like this God would never ask or pressure me to kill in his/her name, hate a group of people. I fact when I feel self-rightious is when I feel further away from my God and I know it's not because my God left me but because I stepped out of that "nature" (don't know what would be the word to put here is).  

[rmcdra]

As for seeing different things in the world outside of the Cave, that just goes to show how great the God is that we follow. It's to be expected since we are each unique but made in our God's image. You may understand God differently then me but I cannot deny that you have made contact with the same God as me based on our previous talks.

I feel closer to mystics within other traditions than I do with the exoteric followers of my own traditions, the Gnostics and the Christians. I find that I get along better with Lokiogma and some of the members in this guild than I do with people in the a particular "Christian" Guilds I was a part of.  

[Gho the Girl]

rmcdra

As for seeing different things in the world outside of the Cave, that just goes to show how great the God is that we follow. It's to be expected since we are each unique but made in our God's image. You may understand God differently then me but I cannot deny that you have made contact with the same God as me based on our previous talks.

I feel closer to mystics within other traditions than I do with the exoteric followers of my own traditions, the Gnostics and the Christians. I find that I get along better with Lokiogma and some of the members in this guild than I do with people in the a particular "Christian" Guilds I was a part of.

I know the feeling.

I was with God while among the pagans, but definitely didn't see him among the fundamentalist baptists I flew home with.  

[Gho the Girl]

rmcdra

Gho the Girl

rmcdra

Gho the Girl

rmcdra

I'm special, don't you know that by now razz . I have my ways ninja . Glad to be here too DB and Gho heart .

*huggggggs*

On srs bsns for a sec, can we discuss original sin?

I don't agree with it conceptually, and I'd like your perspective. I know you sent me that exhaustive list I read, so I understand what it is, but I don't agree with it, ya know?

Oh I understand and its alright, you don't have to agree.

Personally to me Original Sin in my tradition would better be explained in the terms of Platonism, you're in the Cave, the light is there casting shadows you see the shadow, you know something is making the shadows but you don't know what it is that makes the shadows. In my tradition Original Sin is just describing being in this state. When you first realize there's a world outside the cave and have seen it's light is when you are free of Original Sin. Yes our original sin definition is quite different from orthodoxy but hey that's heresy for ya. The "blinders" may still be there but you have a better idea on how to reach the target.

I see.

What of those who go out into the larger world but find different things from you? Basically, is the only way to leave the cave through YHVH or can an Asatru leave the cave?

I don't have an answer but it's assumed that whoever the deity is that is the source of that light transcends all other deities. I don't know if my God is YHVH or not but this god meets the description of YHVH and I understand this deity that I follow in terms of YHVH. But I know that there are things about YHVH that don't match up with the God I know. Things like this God would never ask or pressure me to kill in his/her name, hate a group of people. I fact when I feel self-rightious is when I feel further away from my God and I know it's not because my God left me but because I stepped out of that "nature" (don't know what would be the word to put here is).

I get that, I really do, that thing about "nature" and stuff. I've been grappling with agape since reading part of "The Third Jesus." It's really important, and I never knew how many times in my normal life I step out, so to speak.  

[TeaDidikai]

Gho the Girl

It's really important, and I never knew how many times in my normal life I step out, so to speak.

Agape is really ******** hard.

I don't evny you Sweets.  

[Gho the Girl]

TeaDidikai

Gho the Girl

It's really important, and I never knew how many times in my normal life I step out, so to speak.

Agape is really ******** hard.

Especially when you're a bitter old dishwasher >.<

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I don't evny you Sweets.

Eh, the road is hard, yes, but in those few moments where I'm really getting it, it's really rewarding.  

[rmcdra]

Gho the Girl

TeaDidikai

Gho the Girl

It's really important, and I never knew how many times in my normal life I step out, so to speak.

Agape is really ******** hard.

Especially when you're a bitter old dishwasher >.<

Or you're a arrogant hotel night clerk. >.>

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I don't evny you Sweets.

Eh, the road is hard, yes, but in those few moments where I'm really getting it, it's really rewarding.

It is for me too. At least I now know it doesn't have to be a lonely one.  

[Gho the Girl]

rmcdra

Gho the Girl

TeaDidikai

Gho the Girl

It's really important, and I never knew how many times in my normal life I step out, so to speak.

Agape is really ******** hard.

Especially when you're a bitter old dishwasher >.<

Or you're a arrogant hotel night clerk. >.>

Quote:

Quote:

I don't evny you Sweets.

Eh, the road is hard, yes, but in those few moments where I'm really getting it, it's really rewarding.

It is for me too. At least I now know it doesn't have to be a lonely one.

LET'S BE HERETIC BFFS! biggrin  

[rmcdra]

Gho the Girl

rmcdra

Gho the Girl

TeaDidikai

Gho the Girl

It's really important, and I never knew how many times in my normal life I step out, so to speak.

Agape is really ******** hard.

Especially when you're a bitter old dishwasher >.<

Or you're a arrogant hotel night clerk. >.>

Quote:

Quote:

I don't evny you Sweets.

Eh, the road is hard, yes, but in those few moments where I'm really getting it, it's really rewarding.

It is for me too. At least I now know it doesn't have to be a lonely one.

LET'S BE HERETIC BFFS! biggrin

*hugs*  

[TeaDidikai]

And the godless heathens are left out in the cold. ninja  

[TeaDidikai]

What sacraments and sacramentals would you hold dear?  

[rmcdra]

TeaDidikai

And the godless heathens are left out in the cold. ninja

You have your path we have ours. Some paths are not for everyone. But we can give you love too. *Opens arms offering a hug to Tea*  

[rmcdra]

rmcdra

TeaDidikai

And the godless heathens are left out in the cold. ninja

You have your path we have ours. Some paths are not for everyone. But we can give you love too. *Opens arms offering a hug to Tea*

I guess I'm still not familiar enough to you to offer you a hug sad .